In case you haven't seen the news at the official forums, the Nieuport 17 flight model is being reviewed for 1.022!

For a roll rate reduction? :P

*edit* Thanks for the heads-up - hopefully time to celebrate

Further information: some words about Newport 17

Hate to change the subject alittle bit but why did they stop producing the Pfalz DIII? Man, that thing is a beast!!!

If I get anywhere near the same level of one in my trusty SE-5 I have my hands full bigtime. If I don't stay a good bit above one, they'll hang on the prop and spray the hell out of my aircraft!!! If you try to turn more than 180 degrees with one without killing it, you'd better break off as it can do a 180 and be in my face in a heartbeat! I know that the DIII was a good diver but I don't think that it can dive as fast as my SE-5, well except here. I can have the airspeed indicator needle buried and the DIII is right with me not losing an inch!!!

First off, boom and zoom + SE-5, yeah I get it.

Can't figure out why so many of the aces hated it and considered it to be second or even third rate. I'm pretty good in my SE-5 for overall listings in the campaign mode under 56 Squadron (if I do say so myself! :D) but I definitely don't turn with them more than about 90 degrees. I think the thing that bugs me the most is that when I dive on one I'm indicating almost 140 mph, never dive through their altitude, pull up quickly and with all that when I pass they are on my ass in the climb shooting like crazy and THAT'S what I don't understand........

Heck, I feel better about shooting down two DIII's in a mission than I do shooting down four DFW's.

Ahhh, I feel better now-------disregard all after!!!!

Try diving a Pfalz D.IIIa yourself and see how fast you can go compared to the SE5a's max dive speed. Use simple instruments.

Well, same sentiments here Copter, with a bunch of other guys spectating on me 2 years ago I tried to dive the Pfalz 3 till it broke up, and I mean I was in a 90 degree dive for what felt like minutes!
That thing just refused break up!! Why was everyone in The Blue Max moaning about how terrible a crate it was?

Was playing on the Newb Dogfight server yesterday trying to get some hours in with the Spad VII to get used to the extremely nervous rudder of that thing, and got my tail handed to me on a plate every time I went out.. Tanut the Fokker D.VII; Almost everyone on whats supposed to be the losing side of the coin were flying those terrible out of date Pfalz but that didnt stop them from making my day extremely frustrating! LOL

HAH, that's a hoot! Just finished a mission against two DRI's and two DFW's-shot them all down and the DRI's were WAAAAAAY easier to deal with than that lousy, out-of-date Pfalz!!!!

Don't get me wrong-this sim is the best thing since sliced bread and I'm sure with time things will mature. If they don't-hell, I don't care, it's too much damned fun to fly!!!

Can we have a RFC version with a lewis on the top and no vickers? Please... The foster mounted lewis gun is already modelled for the SE5a

Spoon

I fly the Pfalz III when it's available but it isn't a 'super-plane'. It's not as fast as the D.Va or DVII, nor does it climb as well. BUT, it's very maneuverable. It also bleeds energy like crazy in a very tight turn and has a hard time recovering it due to lack of horsepower. When I fly it, I try to stay well away from Camels and Pups. A good Sopwith driver can make fairly short work of a Pfalz. Most of the Spad and SE5 drivers will give in to the temptation to turn with it and make themselves easy meat. If they have the altitude to dive out, though, they can easily dive away from the Pfalz. Sometimes a lucky shot from long range can get them before they get away, but not always.

The Pfalz III kind of reminds me of two of my favorites from Il-2: the Ki-27 and Ki-43. Just like in those, once you join combat you are committed to either winning or dying. There usually isn't an in-between. LOL