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#3464344 - 11/29/11 04:08 PM Re: No.605 Squadron Mosquito [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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"underside paint job usually extended up to the wing
roots level, nose tip to tail bulge..."
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So shall it be written,
So shall it be done oh great one...

I was using an illustration that showed the camo as it is done on the skin. But having found another book with a photo of a 605 mossie, the camo is wrong and the codes appear to be red not sky.

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#3464469 - 11/29/11 07:17 PM Re: No.605 Squadron Mosquito [Re: iron mike]  
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Here you go Ray, three different Bomber versions for you to look at. smile

De Havilland Mosquito NF.XIX.[Walk Around]
http://depositfiles.com/files/o0u7zrtio

De Haviland DH.98 Mosquito [Walk Around]
http://turbobit.net/t7e5ay7333la.html

De Haviland B.35 Mosquito [Walk Around]
http://turbobit.net/nl4gq2oqzfvu.html


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#3465518 - 12/01/11 03:39 AM Re: No.605 Squadron Mosquito [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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How does this look?





#3466036 - 12/01/11 09:23 PM Re: No.605 Squadron Mosquito [Re: iron mike]  
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Hi Mike,Ray,

Mike - As far as I know only Coastal Command used red codes so I am a bit dubious about that - I will dig around.

Ray - email will be sent later tonight hopefully - depends which bomber version you want!

Cheers

Pete


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#3466109 - 12/01/11 10:49 PM Re: No.605 Squadron Mosquito [Re: iron mike]  
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#3466259 - 12/02/11 03:42 AM Re: No.605 Squadron Mosquito [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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Screw this, darkcloud

I'll send a single skin to Talley-Ho and then put it on a back burner and do another squadron later, next year maybe. I'll find another project instead of the Mossie.

I've got a bit of data on Number 305, a Czech Squadron, defintely a day unit. So, the Sky codes will work. But, I'm going to
move away from this project for the time being.

banghead The matter is closed. sigh

#3466290 - 12/02/11 04:54 AM Re: No.605 Squadron Mosquito [Re: iron mike]  
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You're very close michaelangelo don't quit now and pay
no attention to the plethora of useless profiles......just switch
squadrons to 627, all of 627 squadron's mosquitos were bomber
versions (B) Mk IV's and carried the red code prefix AZ-A, B, C,
D, E...onwards and serial no's started at DZ601 upwards.......to
645 or so, there were lower serials, but not worth considering
as they were all lost by 1943......





DH-98 Mosquito
british model prefixes usually denoting roles:

PR Mk * photo recon
NF Mk * nightfighter
B Mk * bomber
F Mk * fighter
FB Mk * fighter/bomber
TR Mk * torpedo bomber
TT/T Mk * tug/trainer

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#3466355 - 12/02/11 07:16 AM Re: No.605 Squadron Mosquito [Re: iron mike]  
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Hi Ade.

That is a bomber version not a Fighter/Fighter Bomber. duck


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#3466478 - 12/02/11 02:13 PM Re: No.605 Squadron Mosquito [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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you're being less than helpful gibbo...
read the model prefixes again!

grrr

Last edited by Flying Tiger; 12/02/11 02:15 PM.

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#3466674 - 12/02/11 06:39 PM Re: No.605 Squadron Mosquito [Re: iron mike]  
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Ok guys,

Before you come to blows I must apologize for messing up the research somewhat. The answer is this:-

Initially all Mosquitos night fighters were black all over but before long they had camo uppersurfaces and black undersurfaces. The bombers follow the same pattern and apparently so did the specialist night intruders. Unfortunately, by 1944 the RAF had decided like the Luftwaffe that black undersurfaces did not actually work too well so they reverted to standard Medium Sea Grey. I had wrongly assumed that the same would happen to the intruders, not having any pics of 605 so suggested that to Mike on the basis that it fit the usual criteria namely UK based, not Coastal Command and it was the only Squadron I could find matching serials and codes.

I have now looked up the RAF official paint specs for 1944 and it seems that although the night fighters changed, the bombers and intruders retained the black finish with red codes, which seems a bit strange but there we are. I have already apologised to Mike for the extra work it will cause him - my fault entirely.

I can see two solutions - keep 605 with black unders and red codes - the serials would remain black, and/or alternatively change to another squadron that was mainly used in daylight, keep sky codes and forget the serials. One choice would be Percy Pickard's 487 code EG as used in Operation Jericho.

I think it would be better if I say no more.

Mea Culpa,

Pete


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#3466685 - 12/02/11 06:52 PM Re: No.605 Squadron Mosquito [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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Hi Ade.

From various sites the story of 605 Squadron looks like this.

A new No. 605 squadron was formed at RAF Ford on 7 June 1942, equipped with Douglas Boston and Havocs in the intruder role. These were replaced with de Havilland Mosquitoes from February 1943 and it continued to operate this type until the end of the war, moving to Belgium in March 1945 and the Netherlands in April. The squadron disbanded by being re-numbered to No. 4 Squadron RAF on 31 August 1945 at Volkel Air Base..

605 squadron operated with the bomber streams to counter German night fighters. Medium Sea Grey/Dark Green uppers with Black undersides and a black nose.

7 June 1942 15 March 1943 RAF Ford, Sussex Second formation
15 March 1943 6 October 1943 RAF Castle Camps, Cambridgeshire
6 October 1943 7 April 1944 RAF Bradwell Bay, Essex
7 April 1944 21 November 1944 RAF Manston, Kent
21 November 1944 15 March 1945 RAF Hartford Bridge, Hampshire

De Havilland Mosquito NF.II: Feb 1943
DZ691; DZ714; DZ716 (UP-L); DZ717; DZ723; DZ724 (UP-S)

De Havilland Mosquito FB.VI: Jun 1943
HJ761 (UP-P); HJ766; HJ767 (UP-G); HJ768 (UP-Q);
HJ775 (UP-U); HJ776 (UP-E); HJ778 (UP-A); HJ779 (UP-L); HJ780 (UP-X); HJ785 (UP-T);
HJ808 (UP-O); HJ827 (UP-K); HR152 (UP-S); HR203 (UP-V); HR205 (UP-A); HR206 (UP-M);
HR349 (UP-W); HR363 (UP-U); MM414 (UP-Y); MM429 (UP-H); NS838 (UP-J); NS876 (UP-P);
NS880 (UP-M); NS914 (UP-X); PZ349 (UP-A); PZ381 (UP-K); RS567 (UP-S); RS678 (UP-T);
SZ967 (UP-U); SZ993 (UP-A); TA112 (UP-O); TA117 (UP-Y); TA383 (UP-

FB.VI — Currently under rebuild in the main hangar 605 Squadron markings 'UP-G'
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/612217.html

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/612216L.html

NB: From what I've read the Grey undersides are early deliveries, or replacement aircraft. All machines would have been painted in the standard Night Intruder Black undersides quite quickly, hence the two schemes.

Please note: The proper Night Fighter II version should have the Radar antenna.


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#3468656 - 12/06/11 03:57 AM Re: No.605 Squadron Mosquito [Re: iron mike]  
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#3468706 - 12/06/11 07:35 AM Re: No.605 Squadron Mosquito [Re: iron mike]  
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#3471247 - 12/10/11 03:44 AM Re: No.605 Squadron Mosquito [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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8-bit...



#3472698 - 12/12/11 08:19 PM Re: No.605 Squadron Mosquito [Re: iron mike]  
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The 8-bit Glide version of this skin has a couple of rendering problems. sigh I will be trying to correct them with the mentoring of Col.Gibbons . In the mean time, the 24bit full color is ready to go.

#3472794 - 12/12/11 10:13 PM Re: No.605 Squadron Mosquito [Re: iron mike]  
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Yes, we will be going, where no Mike has ever gone before. elvesdragon


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