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#3297666 - 05/18/11 07:05 AM Re: Apache avionics modernization program [work in progress] ***** [Re: arneh]
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Amazing stuff!

For a sim so old and it's still being modded today tells of things lacking in the flight sim community (same with Falcon 4). This kind of work makes me wish I knew how to code - I'd love to work on the DC and tidy it up. Arneh and crew this is great work - perhaps you guys should look at making your own apache sim lol.

Seeing what you've done so far, I wonder how much more moddable the game is - will you guys finish off by turning this into a completely different product one day?

Great work and looking forward to the results, though no rush smile

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#3302263 - 05/24/11 07:28 AM Re: Apache avionics modernization program [work in progress] [Re: Jex_TE]
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Originally Posted By: Jex_TE
Amazing stuff!

For a sim so old and it's still being modded today tells of things lacking in the flight sim community (same with Falcon 4). This kind of work makes me wish I knew how to code - I'd love to work on the DC and tidy it up. Arneh and crew this is great work - perhaps you guys should look at making your own apache sim lol.

Seeing what you've done so far, I wonder how much more moddable the game is - will you guys finish off by turning this into a completely different product one day?

Great work and looking forward to the results, though no rush smile


Hi Jex,

Unfortunately the 3D engine is very old. The devs can do (and did) an amazing job in updating models, avionics, and many other features, but there's only so much they can do graphics-wise. There's no way to put EECH on par with DCS in graphics apart from completely rewriting the game using another 3D engine.

As for tweaking the DC, I briefly dived into it a while ago but sadly I had a spike in work demand so I had to completely drop that. I never changed one single line of code, only looked at it.

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#3331165 - 06/29/11 08:23 AM Re: Apache avionics modernization program [work in progress] [Re: Jex_TE]
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Originally Posted By: Jex_TE
Amazing stuff!
Seeing what you've done so far, I wonder how much more moddable the game is - will you guys finish off by turning this into a completely different product one day?


Well first of all we're all bound by the Empire source license, so simply reselling this is out of the question, and we can't redistribute the original datafiles (models, textures, etc) so making a true "free" release would be a major undertaking.

Then there's the fact that the code is old and ugly in every aspect. It's plain C with source files that are thousands of lines long. Thanks to it having directX bolted to everything cross platform support is never going to happen (there was an openGL branch but it's dead Jim, AFAIK), upgrades to later versions of DirectX are a big undertaking too.

I'd say what EECH really needs at this point is a rewrite using open standards/APIs and a high-level language (C++ or even Java).


Edited by Werewolf (06/29/11 08:23 AM)
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#3386644 - 09/09/11 04:05 PM Re: Apache avionics modernization program [work in progress] [Re: arneh]
Joeyeti Offline
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Hi arneh,

I too am interested in this wonderful work, especially as I like Apache the most from the EECH chopper selection.

Any hints to the further progress so far?

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#3433097 - 11/13/11 11:29 AM Re: Apache avionics modernization program [work in progress] [Re: arneh]
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Hey, Arneh, what documents are you using to do your upgrade? Most documents on things like the longbow radar are considered classified. Is your update going to be like combat helo or more realistic. thanks.

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#3433102 - 11/13/11 11:32 AM Re: Apache avionics modernization program [work in progress] [Re: arneh]
jazjar Online   zombie
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Whoa, those posts were from long ago, probably going to have to PM the man himself to get anything out of him.

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#3433740 - 11/14/11 11:31 AM Re: Apache avionics modernization program [work in progress] [Re: arneh]
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Registered: 10/12/11
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A. This looks gorgeous. Thank goodness we have talents like Arneh working on this game!
B. I'm more interested in realistic performing sensors & weapons (i.e. not perfect ones!!) than I am in realistic MFD's & buttons, but I think I made that clear already.soapbox WinkNGrin Arneh, maybe you can take those on next...

-Olds

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#3434666 - 11/15/11 02:56 PM Re: Apache avionics modernization program [work in progress] [Re: arneh]
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I don't know why they keep this sticky...

I think this project is dead.

Wait... let me check...

deadhorse


Yup.... dead.
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#3434685 - 11/15/11 03:22 PM Re: Apache avionics modernization program [work in progress] [Re: Bib4Tuna]
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... that horse isn't dead! It's just sleeping...
... oh dear, maybe not. Hm, I'll just cut off the head here and ride it around a little Charge

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#3434697 - 11/15/11 03:49 PM Re: Apache avionics modernization program [work in progress] [Re: arneh]
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Oh...don't do THAT!

Here...


have a pony...

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