Results

Autosim Analyzer Results

http://simhq.net/downloads/motorsports/r...yzer/index.html

Server Race Replay and XML Files

http://simhq.net/downloads/motorsports/rfactor/SimHQ_2011_F1_1979_FrenchGP/Dijon_Results.zip

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This is intended to be a purely for fun event with relaxed settings.
We hope those of you who have been reluctant to join us for other F1 races
will take a couple of hours out of the day on Sunday, November 20th
to join us.

General Information

Date: Sunday, November 20, 12 PM eastern time
Race Length: 80 laps
Sim: rFactor 1.255
Mod: 1979 2.01
Track: Dijon
Fixed Setups with Free Settings
Fuel Setting: 1x
Tire Wear Setting: 1x
Driving Aids: Auto Shift and Clutch
Driving Aids: Low setting on traction control and stability control
Damage Multiplier: 25%
Mechanical Failure: normal
Time Compression: none
Unique Vehicle Check: On
Flag Rules: Black only; blue flags display but no penalties
Open qualifying (all cars on track)
Start type: standing start
Drivers do not need to come to a complete stop to ESC
No spectator settings (to optimize server stability)
Drivers can advance the server to the next session during practice
All 3 virtual mirrors available and highly recommended
No Parc Ferme

Event Schedule

NO OFFICIAL PRACTICE SESSION!
12:00 - 12:25 Qualifying - starts at 12 PM track time
12:25 - 12:30 Warm Up / leg stretch / bio break
12:30 - 2:10 Race - starts at 12 PM track time
2:10 - Post race bench racing and beer

All times Eastern USA

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Download

Add-on and track (track is included in the download)
http://simhq.net/downloads/motorsports/rfactor/SimHQ_2011_F1_1979_FrenchGP/1979_French_GP.zip

Ahmad's "Equal Physics" Update
http://simhq.net/downloads/motorsports/rfactor/SimHQ_2011_F1_1979_FrenchGP/GP79EP.7z

Darren's Turn 5 Barrel Removal*
http://simhq.net/downloads/motorsports/rfactor/SimHQ_2011_F1_1979_FrenchGP/dijon_T5.rar

*NOTE: There are some barrels at turn 5 which are sure to end somebody's drive. Steve suggested and Darren provided the file for their removal. Download this file to remove the Turn 5 barrels. The server has been updated so you will need this patch before joining the server to avoid getting an error. The file is in recursive folders when decompressed, so just follow the path for placement of the file.

Installation
1) Install the Add-on and track download
2) Install Ahmad's "Equal Physics" Update
3) Install the "Turn 5 barrels removal"
4) Select: Customize > Player > Racing Series > GP 1979 Equal Physics 2.01
5) Buy the car you want to drive

Updated November 8th

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Fixed Setup

v4 of SteveGee's setup is loaded on the server.

This is the final setup.
Thanks again Steve!

Updated November 13th

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Server

Server Now Available!

SimHQ Motorsports 2
Password: mustard

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Free Settings Available

steering lock
brake pressure
starting fuel
tire compound
brake bias
fuel strategy

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Car Sign-up Available NOW!

Add your selection to the thread.

Keep in mind with the league edition and fixed setups, the difference
is strictly visual between the different cars.

Your Name / Car Number / Car Manufacturer

DJCarney / #1 / Lotus
Stewart Forgie / #3 / Tyrrell
Coutie / #5 / Brabham
Pierre1 / #6 / Ferrari
Weasel Keeper / #7 / McLaren
henny / #8 / McLaren
Darren Blythe / #9 / ATS
Pumbaa / #12 / Ferrari
jimagn / #14 / Copersucar
Steve Gee / #16 / Renault RS12
Rob Bakker / #17 / Shadow
Col Kurtz / #20 / Wolf
David Kennard / #22 / Ensign N177
Frank Steinbach / #25 / Ligier
Dave Bradley / #26 / Ligier
Dirt Diver / #27 / Williams-Ford
purolator / #29 / Arrows
Camera Car / #16 / Rebaque
DaBirdski / #35 / Alfa Romeo

DaveP63 (cancelled - race too long)

Any suggestions to the setup are welcome....I've tried to make it stable, yet fun. It might not be as fast as they ran historically in 1979 at Dijon, but I imagine the aliens among us can get close enough to that time we won't know the difference.

First practice race Wednesday evening at 8 PM eastern US time.

I'll be at the weekend events

Pumbaa / #12 / Ferrari

Coutie / #5 / Brabham

Dirt Diver / #27 / Williams-Ford

Col Kurtz / #20 / Wolf

Steve Gee / #16 / Renault RS12 (just love the sound of that teapot... )

The track is lovely - but isn't Dijon one of those tracks which caused trouble in multiplayer in the past? With DSQs once the race came up after practice, qualifying and warmup?

It should be fixed in this version....(v2.5)

Frank Steinbach / #25 / Ligier

Important Update

Download

Add-on and track (track is included in the download)
http://simhq.net/downloads/motorsports/rfactor/SimHQ_2011_F1_1979_FrenchGP/1979_French_GP.zip

Ahmad's "Equal Physics" Update
http://simhq.net/downloads/motorsports/rfactor/SimHQ_2011_F1_1979_FrenchGP/GP79EP.7z

Installation
1) Install the Add-on and track download
2) Install Ahmad's "Equal Physics" Update
3) Select: Customize > Player > Racing Series > GP 1979 Equal Physics 2.01
4) Buy the car you want to drive

Updated November 8th

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Fixed Setup

v1 of SteveGee's setup is loaded on the server.
Please post your comments and suggestions.
Thanks Steve!

Updated November 8th

Suggestion.

Customize > Settings > Display > Vertical FOV ...set it on 55.

Very good I'll think about it.

I've ran offline races at Dijon a few times and it's always worked for me, purolator.....I would be interested in making sure it works in the online environment, though....guess we'll find out Wednesday...

Well, Dijon always worked in offline tests and also in practice mode on the server. But raceday comes up, the race starts, and half the field gets a DSQ straight away...

We'll test it Wednesday night. If any problem, the 1979 French Grand Prix will get moved.

Version 2 of the setup has been added to the server. Please post you comments and suggestions so Steve can tweak (thanks again Steve!). The setup will remain as is until after Wednesday nights practice races... and we confirm Dijon behaves.

Darren Blythe/#9/ATS

Important Update #2

There are some barrels at turn 5 which are sure to end somebody's drive. Steve suggested and Darren provided the file for their removal.

Download this file to remove the turn 5 barrels. The server has been updated so you will need this patch before joining the server to avoid getting an error. The file is in recursive folders when decompressed, so just follow the path for placement of the file.

http://simhq.net/downloads/motorsports/rfactor/SimHQ_2011_F1_1979_FrenchGP/dijon_T5.rar

Arrows / #29 / Riccardo Patrese

Good to see you back Purolator

+1

No.3 Tyrrel for me.

I tried to join tonight but it wouldn't let me join. Message was Vehicle not owned. And "cannot compete in race. unknown vehicle". I have chosen the #3 Tyrrell as my vehicle but when the spinner comes up at track loading screen, it shows the 29 arrows. I cant change it from the arrows as there is no other car in the list at that point. Anyone any idea whats going on?
Edit; Since it insisted on showing the arrows on the spinner I tried joining with that car, but it changed it to the ferrari during the loading screen. Help!
2ND Edit: All fixed thanks to Doug for help. It was my fault. I hadn't installed the league edition patch.

I was going to post about the set up but then I read the new set up had been loaded... I'll post later on then :p

DaBirdski / #35 /Alpha Romeo

This is the very first 79 car I ever tried and way back when I think we did the historical version so I was doomed from the start not to mention my lack of F1 driving skillz at the time. Hopefully now with the equal physics and semi fixed sets it can once again be competitive. We'll see.

The actual fixed setup is extremely stable. Even more so than the first version.

Will be a great help for the guys like me who are not familiar with those cars.

Nice work, Steve!

Do you mean by any chance the series we did in early 2009?

Oh yes, I remember that one well. I started back then, trying the Arrows A2 at first, and just couldn't handle it's sheer awkwardness. Even with a decent setup, which was given to me by Pierre, not a chance at Long Beach. And if it had been a lawnmower simulation, at times it would have been more appropriate at Kyalami. Luckily I switched to the Ensign. Not faster, but more docile.

Yeah I think so Puro, I vaguely remember us being at Silverstone too wasn't it? I think it was one of the very first events I tried outside of the Fun series that Weasy was running at the time.

SG has done a good job on the setup, It's pretty stable set but there's always that back end loosy goosy feeling once in awhile and the front end push, both of which must be tamed.

I'm gonna try to give it a shot. Lotus #1, Andretti please.

Drivers: A reminder low traction control and low stability control are available. Don't be shy about using either one or both if it makes it more fun for you.

#07/McLaren Cosworth/Watson for Weasy please.

**already edited Guod's first post. **

Important Update #3

Three things came out of tonight's practice races.

1) Damage multiplier is now set on 25%

2) Stability Control option increased from 1 to 2 (TC stays at 1)

3) Steve is going to work on getting a bit more rear downforce, set fuel to full tank, and set the pit stop to 1


Next practice race session on Saturday at 12 PM eastern time.

I've got to admit, a fixed (stable) setup has actually made these a little more fun to drive for me. I really have never cared for open wheeled cars very much, and I remember trying to run a 79GP season a few years back that just ended every weekend with major frustration on my part. It just wasn't any fun, but it was the series we were running so I tried to stick it out. I started thinking the same thing tonight, until I realized that I didn't know the track at all. Once I got familiar with the track, the car started coming around to me a little and my times improved.

80 laps will be fun..........for me to watch 75 of them from the paddock...lol. I think what I really need to work on is saving the tires. I started driving these like tin tops by throwing them around in the corners, but my tires are going away way too fast like that. I need to learn patience, and that I don't have to be driving all out to be fast or at least competitive.

Good fun tonight and glad there was a decent turnout.

The only real suggestion on set up I have other then the brake bias which I found on full tanks worked better at 50.5-49.5 then 50-50 which works well on low fuel... Is to have a play with the toe, I feel we need a little negative toe at the front for turn in, and little more positive toe at the rear for corner exit, you might be able to get it turning in and exiting better through the dampers, I'm not sure... Other then that it's very stable and just needs a little more grip, but then we always want more grip as drivers lol

The brake bias is one of the things that is adjustable for each driver in the Setup menu. I have brake bias adjustments mapped to my steering wheel, so as the more fuel burns off I can balance it better.

v3 was already in the works before we practiced last night and I'd already made some changes towards some of the input that we received from everyone and after tweaking it further....it's a bit faster than it was, has better turn-in, especially at T1 (as long as you don't overshoot a braking zone) and is a bit better on power coming out of a slower corner. It's cost a small bit of medium and high speed downforce, but I don't think it's going to be missed much at all.

My take on the setup for Dijon.

First, I should say this is from the perspective of someone who values stability in the setup over outright speed. I just don't have the skill to throw the car around and catch it on a regular basis. Also, I should note that last night was my first time at Dijon ever, so more experience with the track is highly likely to change my ideas somewhat.

Like others I was asking for more grip. With a little time to let last night percolate through my brain I would say that the following observations would guide me in changing the setup.

I had problems controlling the rear end of the car in throttle-on conditions in slow to mid-speed corners. The higher speed corners such as the complex that leads on to the main straight exhibited quite a bit of understeer, as I found myself lifting more than I would have liked if I didn't get it right (pushing to the outside).

What the above suggests to me is that maybe the aero balance is OK, since that should predominate in the higher speed corners. It is even possible that changing the aero balance toward oversteer a bit might be good, IF the lower speed corners can be improved enough.

My thoughts on how to improve the medium/low speed corners (1st/2nd gear) would lead me to look at the mechanical balance, softening the rear and/or stiffening the front (hence increasing the understeer and in theory allowing you to get back to the throttle earlier/harder). Also, I don't know what adjustments are possible with the diff but it might be that changes there could help reduce the power-on oversteer effect.

Overall, the setup was pretty darn good, and I am appreciative of the effort in getting to this point. I realize these cars were beasts and getting them to the point where ordinary humans can drive them is not easy. A lot of the fun is that they aren't so easy to drive and how each individual comes to grips with that is much the point of the whole exercise. If last night's setup were to be the final iteration I would be fine with that.

I should also say that I was running with traction control ON. I tried the stability control briefly, during one of the qual sessions and I did not like it at all. So I ran without it.

One final note. By the end of the session I found myself changing quite a bit in the 30 second interval after the horn sounds for you to go to the grid. I was changing brake balance, steering rack angle, fuel load, and I even experimented a bit with the front wing. A little bit of lollygagging was all it took for me to miss the start. Making the fixed setup correspond to the likely race setup for more people would help here but is really a minor matter.

Dave Bradley

Setup v4 is now loaded on the server. As before, give it a try and add your comment so SteveGee Engineering knows your feedback.

Dave Bradley #25 Ligier

I just gave version 4 of the setup a trial (less than 10 laps) and I like it better than the one from last night. A good improvement in my view. Definitely more stable, but still enough of a handful to make it a fun challenge.

Dave Bradley

Already taken by NimRud/Frank, Dave. But #26 Ligier is still available.

OOPS! (with apologies for stealing Rick Perry's line)

#26 it is

Dave

Not sure, but I think there's a practice session at 12PM this Saturday (11/12).

If not, I plan on being that at that time for an impromptu one.

For those of you that also run SCES, i'll be sticking around after the F1 practice do do some online testing of Singapore GT. Free Sushi and Sake for anyone that want's to help

Fresh from his latest slaughter in a zombie infested cave the Warthog emerges, eyes squinted

It's Saturday morning in the US, the sun is bright as the last glimpses of summer shine through...

Hang on a minute... I'm in France? Dijon to be exact... My horse looks like a giant has stepped on it... but it seems to go a lot faster, as fast as a arrow...

I too shall head to Piotr's pub in little Singapore town for some mead and ale to quench me thirst, then it's off a hunting again I go...

LMAO! No doubt what you've been up to over the last couple of days!!

Yikes! Pumbaa has been consumed by some dragon and men-in-tights game!

Great racing today. I think that 20 lapper was my best online road race ever!

That was really great to see, Stewart. Good on you.

+1

Very well deserved Stewart. You've been looking racy for a couple of sessions so it was great to see it all come together. Great drive Stewart. Grats!

This track just inspires close racing... it's great... The storms in my area made connection fun, but I had a blast...

That was a epic battle between us Stewart... I think I may of had around 0.2s in out right pace on ya, but we both kept making little mistakes all over the track, luckily none of them were fatal and we had some great side by sides.. Great to see you so close on pace.. Now if we both can find a solid rhythm we can take it to Frank, Darren and Birdski

Also had a blast with Birdski and henny and others in the other races, lots of side by side stuff...

I DON'T WEAR TIGHTS!!!! I WEAR STEEL!!!!! Now excuse me, I have a dragon to slay

I would to join you fine folks tomorrow in the Ensign N177 #22

What is you you use to actually tilt the virtual mirrors up/down in game, what keys?

Whatever keys you've got mapped to move the view/seat up/down/forward/back.....hold the Shift key down and use those.

Default is shift and arrow keys for mirror adjustment.

The race is actually next weekend but i'll be available for practice today if anyone fancies it.

I'll plan in jumping on again this morning for a few sprints. Refreshing to see SF get podium. Bloody well done Stewart.

Congrats, Stewart You are getting there.

I'm surprised that Ahmad hasn't signed up yet?

Rob Bakker / #17 / Shadow

You guys need some one to finish last.

I'm afraid that spot is already reserved for me.

You can have it if you slow down by one second or so.

No chance. All mine!

Withdrawing as of now. Just noticed it's 80 laps. No way.

Come along for the practice races on Wednesday. They are only 10 or 20 laps and will get you used to driving these beasties. After all. its just for fun!

I wouldn't let that put you off. The chances of anyone actually making that far are pretty slim!

I just loaded this mod and ran 3 laps. Looks like Sunday is open for me. I'll try to join the server in a minute, with the #14 Copersucar. My scrawny ol' b*tt ain't gonna like 80 laps; but as Darren said, I doubt I'll make it much beyond turn 1.

Jim

20 laps went very fast at practice the other night, I think I'm going to end up wanting to do another race after just 80 laps

Hi Jim, and welcome.

I've added you to the grid in the first post. Any updates that come about in this thread are always posted there.

If your schedule permits, please try to join us Wednesday evening at 8 PM eastern US time, or on Saturday at 12 PM eastern US time for a few short practice races. If you can't make either, its okay, but it'll be helpful if you can.

Working nights this week for night flight training for our pilots...ugh.

henny / 08 / McLaren

Sorry I missed this one I was reallly looking forward to it too. My internet was down since Monday evening. Glad to be back online now and on Monday I upgrade to 30mb so that should be good! I hope everyone had fun.

Another practice race session on Saturday at 12 PM eastern and of course the race is Sunday.

Lotus 80 Mk2 #1

Pierre1/06/Ferrari

There's a blast from the past...DJC and Pierre1!

Might give the DB's something to think about...lol.

Yeah, what a great mod, the power mixed with dicey handling and very nice variety in cars and engine notes. If more GP79 racing coming, voting for a bit shorter races - this 100 minutes is up there. Maybe 50 to 60m seems adequate. Seeya for Skoda racing fersure

Looks like there is a fix for the virtual mirror issue but if you really use the side mirrors a lot it makes them off it seems.
I use the virtual mirrors more so if I get time tonight I will do a fresh GP79 install and try this out before the race tomorrow.

fix: http://legends-league.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=6301

Drivers Meeting

A few reminders for tomorrow's race.

1) the 25 minute qualifying starts right at 12 PM eastern time for 25 minutes
2) it is not private qualifying (IOWs, traffic on track)
3) if you fall off the track, be extra careful re-entering
4) when you re-enter, try to do it on a straight and out of the racing line
5) be sure and fill your tank to the top for all 80 laps -- no refueling available in 1979!
6) the pit crew will repair a car, but not to 100% original condition
7) before joining the server on race day, check this thread's first post for any event updates
8) before joining the server on race day, please reconfirm the car you planned to use isn't already taken
9) one restart, unless it is a zebra red flag
10) anyone can call restart, but they need to do it before the leader has completed the first lap at s/f

gla!

80 or 89 laps?

Tonights practice races were a blast with a fight going in every race for me... that last 40 lapper had an imense battle for the lead, which I was lucky enough to be involved in early on... it's going to be a hell of a race...

It's weird seeing the Alfa and ATS so close all the time after watching the Ferrari and Renault go at it over and over...

Good luck all!!! I really had a lot of fun today for the practice races and even got into the 1:12s during the 40 lapper...which is something I've never done before with these cars on this track. That is until I slid off at T1 and barely brushed the wall which bent my suspension with about 15 to go. It only took a second or two off my times so I pressed on and finished one lap down. Not too bad for me...lol.

I'm not able to make the feature Sunday because my dad is hosting an early Thanksgiving dinner for the family.

80 laps (doofus fixed the typo in the previous post)

Here is the mirror bmp to drop in your vehicles folder, it fixed the virtual mirror showing the cars too close for me.

Link: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/mirrorc.png/

or

Couldn't stay for long so I put in very little gas. Hope I scared the leaders. . Have fun.

After a few laps I knew this wasn't going to be any fun for me. I shouldn't race this kind of cars. But when hotlapping I always have the feeling I will do fine in a race.

Well it was fun while it lasted. That makes two discos in two days. Both were classic discos, that is, bounced to the turntable screen after the message "connection lost" So I do not suspect an rFactor problem (although it could be). I have had stable hookups to SimHQ for a long time and any problems I have had I have been able to attribute to rF, or other portions of my own hardware/software. Not so with these last two. Like Purolater I will have to evaluate my future participation in any extended events that require so much preparation.

The racing I saw was fun and of a high order of skill and consideration. Thanks guys!!!

Congrats to the winner and podium guys!!

Dave

Congratulations to Darren for the win.

Good to see Col Kurtz back and running so strong with the pole and second.
(but for one oops in a turn, a win)

Good to see Pumbaa finishing out the podium.



Congrats to all that participated! Good turnout with 17 drivers.

Here is the Autosim Analyzer Results:
http://simhq.net/downloads/motorsports/r...yzer/index.html

Here is the xml files and server race replay:
http://simhq.net/downloads/motorsports/rfactor/SimHQ_2011_F1_1979_FrenchGP/Dijon_Results.zip

<plug> Join us on 11 December for the Watkins Glen race </plug>

Congrats to the podium and all participants!

I feel for you, Dave. I limited my preparation to less than 3 hours of total wheel time, and that includes the hour before the race today. In case of another disco, I wouldn't have had such a sour feeling then as in August this year, where I prepared for hours, tweaking setups, etc.. But today - luckily! - no issues came up.

When I practised today I had at once a much better feeling about it. No shunts anymore and not record-breaking, but stable times. Admittedly I was indeed faster than the days before.

Quali went better than expected (6th on the grid), I somewhat blew the start (back down to 12th) and had a close call when Pierre spun in front of me. I very lightly touched his rear wheel and some damage was indicated, but the car's behaviour was virtually unaffected.

Had some battles for positions with Henny and Birdski afterwards (which I all lost) but I didn't care really as I was satisfied to have finished the race and the hiatus didn't affect my general speed as much as I anticipated.

7th place is nothing special, but seeing the chequered flag at all was already enough to make me smile today.

Signed up last minute as I was checking out SimHQ the otherday to see what was going on and saw this race and figured I give it a go. It's been awhile since I raced @ SimHQ saw some familiar names was fun today!

I did'nt get much practice but did make the 1st 2 10 lappers yesterday.

Q: 7th place and no where near the top guys a good second+ off

Race: I made a good get away passed a couple guys was up in 3rd or 4th for a bit as some of the guys I passed got back on pace and caught up..eventually was running about 5th or 6th Pummbaa was pulling away slightly and I was slightly quicker thean henny behind..

Birdski pitted and I found my self in 4th for a while until he caught up and got by with about 10 to go....

My main goal was to finsih and not make too many mistakes car was handful to drive and I was way off the pace uhhh but I did finish and only had 1 minor mishap and P5 is decent result..

Got distracted by someone flashing up a "pass left" message on the screen when I was running in 8th and just about to brake for turn one about 34 laps in and lost my front wing on the barrier. Then missed the pit entrance so crew wouldnt repair till I had gone round again so that cost me any chance of a good finish. All in all a hard but fun race. Grats to Darren col Kurtz and Pumbaa for their podiums.

Absolutely loved the racing today, it was tough but very enjoyable.

I managed to get myself on pole, but only just. At the start I got a clean getaway into the lead, but Darren and Puumbaa were all over me. After 2 or 3 laps it was just Darren under my gearbox, and that is how it remained for the next 40 laps or so.

It seemed as though Darren wasn't interested in overtaking me, he had the opportunities to do so, but held back. I imagined that he was saving it for the final laps, or was just waiting for me to make an error.

At about mid distance I noticed that his yellow car had disappeared from my mirrors. Initially I thought that he must have gone off the track somewhere, but I soon realised that he had infact pitted, and he was now 28 secs behind me on fresh tyres. Straight away I thought about copying his strategy to keep myself covered, but i had not practiced the pitlane entry, and I didn't even know what the pit lane speed limit was, so decided against that idea. I was just going to have to drive fast! I'd assumed everybody was going to be doing the race on a single set of tyres.

While trying to work out if I was at an advantage or disadvantage, I lost concentration and missed the braking point for T1, costing me around 10 seconds. Darren was now 19 secs behind me, with about 0.5 to 1 sec per lap speed advantage, with about 25 laps remaining. Every lap now had to be driven as if it was a qualifying lap in order for me to stay ahead.

Throughout the second half of the race I'd been driving the car by the scruff of its neck in attempting to stay as far ahead of Darren as possible. The tyres were losing grip, the car was sliding alot. With about 5 laps remaining, and with just 5 secs over Darren, I finally made an error going into the downhill hairpin. Darren drove by me, and the race was lost.

Congrats to Darren on his race pace and strategy, and for an excellent win. It was a very tough race.

The racing was clean, when comming up to lap other cars there were no problems whatsoever. Good driving all round.

Big thanks to Doug for hosting the event.

I wish that was the case Col but If there was a clear cut chance i would have taken it . I was driving right on the limit keeping up with you, so even if you went offline or made a small error I had no leeway to make a move without taking a huge risk. If it was the final few laps i would have taken a bite but with over half the race to go it simply wasn't worth doing anything hasty. Initially i had planned to do the whole race on one set of tyres but you were simply too quick for me and i was starting to get hypnotized by your gearbox so i decided to switch strategy and hoped i could take a speed advantage in the second part of the race..

I was gutted to see you make that mistake in the final couple of laps. I was closing as fast as i could but you were still flying on those worn tyres. I have a feeling you would have won but it would have been an exciting finish for sure.

Really bad luck but thanks for some awesome (and very tough!) racing. I had the usual couple of scary moments and two minor off track excursions but thankfully nothing too serious.

Well done to everyone who took part. That was a tiring but enjoyable event. Kudos to Pumbaa for a great 3rd place and also Birdski for a giving me a frantic first few laps. Alex was also closing us down very quickly in the opening stint but then I saw him leave so i'm not sure what happened there. I was also really happy to see Purolator back on track and more importantly getting to the end with connection intact!!

Once again the popularity and fun factor of the classic races delighted me. Many thanks to Doug for hosting and Steve for a totally amazing setup. Shame he couldn't make it and enjoy the fruits of his talent.

DB, quick (probably dumb) question ... you planned to do the whole race on Hard or Soft tyres?

My Soft tyres wore pretty thin at about lap 46 when I had to pit but I have no idea how you hot shots operate

Nice one guys and its painful for me to see how good this event was!


I did try some quick runs couple days ago and was good


Congratulations to Darren for taking it, must have been tough! And good stuff Doug :-) Another successful event!

I used softs the whole way they only wore about 40%

Well that was a blast... Surprised myself with P3 in qualy, then set about having my traditionally crap standing start... and had to make up a few positions on the opening laps... I made a mistake and had to do it all again though... After that I settled into a rythym and set about chasing down the 6 guys in front of me... Unfortunately for Alex, Frank and Birdski they had problems, and with Birdski pitting for tyres it was looking like it was going to be a similar situation to DB and Col only with a smaller gap between us... Unfortunately Birdski missed the pit entrance and had to lose more time by ptting a second time... Before that though we had a epic battle for a number of laps with us both making mistakes costing us time from the leading pair, we had some great passes and attempts into T1 until I got caught out by a car returning to the track in T1 which had me in the dirty air of another lapped car for 3 laps and saw Birdski pull out a gap on me which I was just starting to pull back when he pitted.... That botched stop made the second half of my race a concentration test as I wasn't planning on stopping in this race, I was just trying to maintain the gap back to 4th and not fall off the track...

Then with about 15 laps to go I noticed Col was almost a minute in front of me and would be on me in 10 laps at the current speed I was running... So I thought to myself... I've got thrid I can cruise home easily and jump out of the way of the leaders... Or I can let my pride take over and make a challenge out of it... I managed to up my pace so that a clean lap would be faster by a tenth over DB but then the next lap I'd make a mistake that cost me half a second... So with around 5 laps to go Col was no more then 3 seconds behind me and I was really sweating it... Then he made a mistake that cost him 6 seconds and I could breathe once more... That didn't stop the pair of them from closing down on me once more as another mistake from me saw DB within 2 seconds of me with 2 laps to go... Luckily I held my nerve and managed to put in the final lap to be the last runner on the circuit... I'm quite proud of that as I've never finished on the lead lap in these Classic F1 races here without the aid of the streets of Adelaide that is...

DD I used softs, they only started going yellow on lap 46, but these softs aren't like the ILMS mediums were there's a big drop off in the yellow area... You can run almost into the red without having a real cliff so to speak... So I was happy in the knowledge that I'll be not much slower then a guy on hards at the end and with the pace both Col and I were able to pull out at the end, there was no more then 0.5s between DBs and Birdskis fresher sets and Col and mine worn sets...

Congrats to DB for the win, hard luck Col the win was so close, and it was great to see Puro back and make it to the end without any gremlins attacking his real world machinery

And of course thanks to Doug and SimHQ for providing all the fun again

mostly me, thanks

Initially I was planning to use one set of softs. They were definitely good for it (as others proved) but racing CK like that for 80 laps would have got me nowhere except in the litter or up his exhaust pipe. Typically tyres in most mods will go a little further than you think and it's usually beneficial to be aggressive.


LMAO, that explains a lot!! You had me scratching my head for sure.