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#3428689 - 11/07/11 04:18 PM
F4, F5, OF,BMS???
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Registered: 04/24/10
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Loc: Utah
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Help, my head is spinning. Yes, I read the "Which F4 Should I get", and much, much more at various places on the net.
I am currently using Falcon 4 AF. I tried FF5.5.5. It was awful, terrible graphics, plane uncontrollable, on exit my desktop icons were rearranged. I also tried BMS F4, I forget the main reason why I junked it, hokey opening screens for one, and uncontrollable plane and freeze.
Any advice?
I have fairly low requirements. Fly some training missions, make a few custom missions, etc. I like to start the sim, get in the air and do a little air to air stuff.
My system is a Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, I7 Intel core, 6 GB ram, ATI Radeon HD 5700 video, Samsung SyncMaster 226BW monitor.
Thanks for any help, Jim
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#3428698 - 11/07/11 04:32 PM
Re: F4, F5, OF,BMS???
[Re: hawkeye62]
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Registered: 03/20/09
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BMS, king of the crop for online stability and realism. Working (and stunning) 3D pit, HDR.
FF5 for singleplayer eyecandy. No 3D pit.
AF for nostalgia.
You installed BMS with the original F4 right? Not AF, seeing as you can't.
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#3428774 - 11/07/11 06:27 PM
Re: F4, F5, OF,BMS???
[Re: WynnTTr]
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Registered: 04/29/04
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What?
FF 5.5.5 does have a 3D pit... not as good as BMS, I admit, but it's VERY serviceable if compared to the one in F4:AF. Plus you can fly WAY more planes if that's your thing.... I only fly F-16 (bangs fist on chest...) OH!...and the multiplayer DOES work...it only takes more tweaking than BMS...which by the way I love.
And by the way...the AF campaigns are WAY superior to anything BMS or FF have.
To the OP... you are obviously a little over your head. Post specific issues, and there will be always someone willing to offer advice. FF 5.5.5 is not Nvidia friendly, but since you have an ATI/AMD, it's should be all good. If you had image quality issues with BMS, you might not be configuring your Control Center options to Application Controlled. But since you don't give any hints, I will not guess... Give (current settings) and ye shall receive.
However, with that said, if you just want to "do some air to air stuff", these are not the droids you are looking for. You'll be happier in AF. The learning curve is steep...but if you have patience the rewards are well worth it.
So...do you even have a joystick? Not to mention,a proper HOTAS?
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#3428815 - 11/07/11 07:17 PM
Re: F4, F5, OF,BMS???
[Re: Bib4Tuna]
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Registered: 03/20/09
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What?
FF 5.5.5 does have a 3D pit... not as good as BMS, I admit, but it's VERY serviceable if compared to the one in F4:AF. Plus you can fly WAY more planes if that's your thing.... I only fly F-16 (bangs fist on chest...) OH!...and the multiplayer DOES work...it only takes more tweaking than BMS...which by the way I love.
And by the way...the AF campaigns are WAY superior to anything BMS or FF have.
To the OP... you are obviously a little over your head. Post specific issues, and there will be always someone willing to offer advice. FF 5.5.5 is not Nvidia friendly, but since you have an ATI/AMD, it's should be all good. If you had image quality issues with BMS, you might not be configuring your Control Center options to Application Controlled. But since you don't give any hints, I will not guess... Give (current settings) and ye shall receive.
However, with that said, if you just want to "do some air to air stuff", these are not the droids you are looking for. You'll be happier in AF. The learning curve is steep...but if you have patience the rewards are well worth it.
So...do you even have a joystick? Not to mention,a proper HOTAS? You're right. I should correct my first post - actually 3D modelled pit that looks stunning. I know it's personal preference but I just couldn't stand the simple model of the 3D pit and switching to 2D to actually see details. The BMS pit is gorgeous and almost up there with the DCS products. With the new 3D pit, dynamic shadows, HDR, native wide/multimontior support and upcoming FLARE integration BMS is the one you'd want if you have modern hardware. Couple that with consistent MP stability you've got a winner when compared to AF or FF. And what's your secret to getting FF to run stable multiplayer for everyone in a four ship flight on a consistent basis? Me and my buddies have been trying for years to get FF rock solid stable as AF, which we flew previously. BMS is just as stable as AF so we've converted to that. If FF is so stable why haven't VFW's gone over and were mainly flying AF for their online games. Alot are now converting to BMS. You're right again in that there are alot more planes modelled in FF, no doubt, but like I said, FF for singleplayer.
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#3428842 - 11/07/11 08:30 PM
Re: F4, F5, OF,BMS???
[Re: hawkeye62]
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Registered: 04/24/10
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All I know is that neither FF5 or BMS would do anything close to what F4 AF does. Terrible graphics, unflyable plane, etc. Yes, F4 was in CD drive. Yes, I tried to "tune" the stick. Yes, I have a stick, Saitek Cyborg Evo. No errors during installation. Just a total bust when I ran the sims. I was so p.s.ed, I unistalled and deleted the downloads.
Thanks for the replies, Jim
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#3428872 - 11/07/11 09:52 PM
Re: F4, F5, OF,BMS???
[Re: hawkeye62]
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Registered: 01/08/06
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Loc: Atlanta, GA
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Unflyable plane, serious? Maybe you don't have the realism set to 100%? BMS is designed to have it set to 100%, and if you don't, things will screw up. BMS has by far the most realistic flight model of all the Falcons. If you can't fly the plane, blame yourself, not BMS. It just means you need a lot more seat time. A lot. Don't worry though, with practice you can get better. The graphics are also completely better than AF. I'm not sure what you're doing but it sounds like you have a bunch of settings checked wrong. If it doesn't look anything like this, then it is your settings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg2Yc65pQK8&feature=related
Edited by Mr_Blastman (11/07/11 09:53 PM)
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#3428892 - 11/07/11 10:37 PM
Re: F4, F5, OF,BMS???
[Re: hawkeye62]
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Registered: 09/15/06
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All I know is that neither FF5 or BMS would do anything close to what F4 AF does. Terrible graphics, unflyable plane, etc. Seems to me you answered your question right there. For the time being BMS 4.32 has been behaving really nice for me. I put some fifty hours in now and it hung only a couple of times, and only in the GUI after I had been task-switching like a maniac. BMS also doesn't like my antivirus software for some reason, sometimes taking a really long time to launch. That's all. Considering Falcon has never been very stable, it's a absolutely freaking wonderful what the BMS devs pulled off here. Also, you sure you were playing the new BMS 4.32 version and not the very, very old BMS 2 patch from 2003 or something? I don't know how you could describe BMS 4.32 graphics as "terrible" otherwise. It's the only version with a DirectX 9 engine, for chrissakes.
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#3428957 - 11/08/11 01:41 AM
Re: F4, F5, OF,BMS???
[Re: hawkeye62]
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Registered: 10/11/08
Posts: 225
Loc: Denmark
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BMS 4.32 anytime!
This comes from a hardcore AF fan.
OF: did never find out how to install and run it.
FF: ran like sh.. on my 64 bit system.
AF: easy to use.
BMS: as easy as AF to run, and looks better. More complicated, but not difficult to learn.
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#3428962 - 11/08/11 01:58 AM
Re: F4, F5, OF,BMS???
[Re: hawkeye62]
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BMS 4.32 is the only Falcon I have been able to play. Tried OF but the graphics were not so good. I heard AF was FUGLY and from the screenshots I'd have to say they were right. I can't believe people even flew that game.
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#3428981 - 11/08/11 03:07 AM
Re: F4, F5, OF,BMS???
[Re: Cali]
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Registered: 06/27/08
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Loc: Hungary
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BMS 4.32 is the only Falcon I have been able to play. Tried OF but the graphics were not so good. I heard AF was FUGLY and from the screenshots I'd have to say they were right. I can't believe people even flew that game. Oh, you would be surprised to see how ugly things I flew in the last 20 years... (I clearly remember the first one, check the link. It had air refuelling! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJWB6tSgx_E) I flew AF for years, and I loved it. Tried FF every time it got updated, but felt unsafe, unfinished, cumbersome, althouhg looked great. Never tried OF. I downloaded BMS 4.32, and its perfect from every angle, I just wait to have enough time to dive into it. Wouldn't go back to anything else in the Falcon world.
Edited by Staniol (11/08/11 03:10 AM)
Edit Reason: Grammar as usual
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