General warning - The latest WHQL certified Nvidia drivers (version 285.62) mess up FSX, DCS:A-10c and LOMAC FC2 so far. Not exactly sure which component of the driver suite does the damage, but checking. Creative sound card owners will also experience problems and likely, no sound. IL2 1946 seems to be okay. Our in lab AI, Helios is still testing for me, so I will have more tomorrow when she finishes and compiles code. Right now, a big forewarning, install at your own risk and make sure to clone or image your install before fooling with this latest Nvidia mess. Will have more info tomorrow on Windows 32 bit and Vista/XP.

S! - WD

(Yes, I know this is not the computer section, but this is important enough to know that I am listing it in the community hall)

WD, I was playing FC:2 last night with WHQL 285.62, and everything was fine? Not a single problem. I have DCS: A-10c too and will check that tonight, haven't played it for a while. Can't check FSX as I uninstalled it, but I can confirm there is no problem at all in FC:2 on W7 64 bit at my end.

I'm not sure its that big a deal even if there are problems (which I'm not having, in any sim thus far, but still need to check Black Shark and A-10c). Its easy enough to do a clean install and put the old ones back?

I don't have a Creative card, but use a Creative headset which uses the drivers....Strange. Are there many people reporting this WD? A lot of folk are saying good things about it for Cliffs of Dover, cannot confirm as of yet. I'll report back later tonight with any findings.

EDIT: This is on a GTX 580, W7 Home Premium '6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601'

Cheers.

Can't confirm this on my system. Both DCS:A-10C and FSX run just fine with the 285.62 drivers with my EVGA GTX 470 and Win7 64 bit.

I've got a GTX 480 and it was fine with A-10C last night using 285.62. YMMV.

This is why I wait before grabbing the latest drivers. What I've right now works for everything I currently play. I tried updating to a newer version a few months back and I had huge stuttering with iRacing. Rolled back to 270.XX and no problems, even BF3 runs (against its own advice, popup warning says to upgrade).

I don't update drivers any more unless I get a problem.

I have had this since yesterday and all games play fine, FSX, COD, L4D2, Mafia 2 and others. I always use the newest drivers and even try the betas. You can always go back if they are not working for you. The one I am waiting for and hoped it would be this one is the version coming with a frame rate limiter.

Limiter? Don't you mean the dynamic vsync, where it's on if you maintain 60fps or higher, but turns off when you drop below? It's not really a limiter (although practically I suppose it functions the same way).



The Jedi Master

Great, glad it is working for some. Feel free to post results or unusual problems here.

Still testing. I re-image any clients from a group of several servers and suddenly had a rash of multiple problems late last night. Still investigating .....

More details when I look at this during lunch time .... be back later today

both AMD and nVidia are both trying so hard to kiss EA/Dice/BF3's Butts by making the game run faster on their hardware, that they are messing up the drivers for all other games... lol

No, a frame rate limiter that will limit frame rates to the amount you choose for the game you choose, differnt than the vsync on and off switch. Nvidia will soon include one in the control panel.

So you are telling me that a driver made exclusively to boost a new game and jump on the marketing ploy bandwagon has borked previously working games ? NO WAY ! and nvidia did this ? unbelievable, i'm speechless,that can't be a new bussiness pratice now,can it ?
the shock !!!

i believe the first game they started with this crap was battlefield 2. or doom 3.Thats why i like to keep me old drivers, and hate when a game force you to download new,there is simply no need.

Hi,

just did around 2 h flying in FSX. No probs whatsoever.

I had to deactivate 4 HD Audio thingies in the controlcenter though to bring the sound back. I think the new driver installed them.

edit: just did a short testflight in CoD, no prob either.

Ty kilosierra and others. Part of the problem is that some of the computers in the lab are running Nvidia 3D Vision stuff or the iZ3D driver, and this is part of the problem (ty Helios... you're earning your keep for once). Still digesting.... more when I pinpoint it.

Ok....DCS A-10c.....Fine.
IL-2 1946 (UP 3.0).....Fine
DCS Black Shark....Fine
FC:2...........Fine
Rise of Flight...Fine
Falcon 4.......Fine
Cliffs of Dover....Fine.
BOB II WOV....Fine

They are all running well and there is nothing out of the ordinary, both graphics and sounds. WD, can you go into more detail as to what is actually 'borked' mate? Can you even start the sims? Bizarre, no problems whatsoever here, they are actually very good drivers on my setup. Excellent framerates and very smooth. It's bugging me why you are having trouble with them.

i7 940
P6T Deluxe MB
GTX 580
6gb DDR3 @1600mhz
'SoundMax' onboard sound
W7 64 bit

Let us know how you get on WD.....hope you get it sorted.

Just read your edit WD, must be 3d related by the sounds of it (don't use that myself).

Well with so many others reporting good success, content to leave it as a forewarning for now. Still investigating Biggles, but glad everything running smooth for ya. I am running a few weird setups in the lab (like stuff in 3D and or with Matlab), so still looking into it.

My experience with 32 bit vista and these drivers.

All my sims and other games OK( and slightly better frame rates) but has screwed Nvidia control panel, on closing I get 3.9.730.0 has stopped working, Data Execution prevention ( which I think is a Windows method of control so another application does not use memory exclusive for Windows).
Luckily any changes made are saved so a weird problem).
Seeing as these drivers are Windows lab approved , I have sent Nvidia tech support an e-mail. Interestingly on their own forum website a number of other people are reporting the same problem.

You mean many people are having the control panel crash after use? That's an odd one.



The Jedi Master

yep, strange but true

Issue resolved. Took me awhile to take apart this driver and see what was going on. The problem concerns SLI users who have 3D stereoscopic view enabled as they update the driver. When the new driver is installed, it reverts to non-SLI mode and must be reset, but this interferes with the a registry edit of the previous 280 driver.

I know this only affects about six guys, but if you are using 3D Surround or 3DTV Play, reset to normal resolution before updating the driver.

S! - WD

(sorry to panic normal users)