#3410753 - 10/15/11 02:53 PM
HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain+HS+HS1 Throttle mod - SOLD
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GregP
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I recently bought a HOTAS Warthog after 10 years of faithful service from my Cougar. I'm going to miss it (I had almost begun to think in Foxy code after all that time) but I finally decided the Warthog was worth the investment since DCS is my primary flight sim these days. So now it's time to sell my Cougar. I pre-ordered it from Amazon way back in 2000 or 2001, whenever it came out, I can't quite remember. Over that time I've put well over $800 worth of mods into it, including: - IJ's original Uber Cougar 'center play removal' mod- Evenstrain's original gimbals + Hall Sensor mod- CubPilot's HS1 throttle mod (just last summer, when I noticed some spiking in my throttle's response) I have never tried a Cougar with any of the newer mods, so I can't really comment on how they compare. What I can say is my Cougar has a completely equal resistance in all directions, with no center or side 'notches' perceptible whatsoever (a HUGE change from the default retail version). To be honest, I actually even like the feel of it slightly more than that of the Warthog. I've taken very good care of my Cougar over the years, always keeping it protected by Cougar Covers when not in use. Also, for a few years I didn't put much time into flight sims, so it was rarely used during that time. None of the lettering is faded or scratched, and there are no scratches anywhere on the entire HOTAS. I never encountered the broken speedbrake switch problem that people seemed to have early on, and all the buttons and axes work just fine. And the remaining pots (ANT, RNG, microstick?) seem to be doing fine, not showing any spiking that I can detect. So, given the total of over $1100 that I've put into this HOTAS, and the great condition it's in, I think asking $275 shipped within the lower 48 is reasonable, especially given the likely costly expense I'll incur shipping this beast. HOWEVER, if you live in the DC/MD/VA area and want to just come pick it up, I'd be happy to do say, $240. While I am of course looking to offset the cost of the Warthog by selling my Cougar, I'm also motivated to see it end up in the hands of someone who will really use it, as it's got plenty of years of use left in it.
Last edited by GregP; 10/16/11 06:17 PM.
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#3410811 - 10/15/11 04:34 PM
Re: HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain+HS+HS1 Throttle mod
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Darn, if you had put this up for sale in January I would have bought it in an instant. As it is I've got little cash flow to spend on such things...
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#3410969 - 10/15/11 09:38 PM
Re: HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain+HS+HS1 Throttle mod
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Wow, very nice! I play DCS A10 almost exclusively now, so I know how you are feeling.
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#3411191 - 10/16/11 05:10 AM
Re: HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain+HS+HS1 Throttle mod
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I might be interested in a week, im waiting for my paycheck.
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#3411206 - 10/16/11 06:44 AM
Re: HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain+HS+HS1 Throttle mod
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I might be interested in a week, im waiting for my paycheck. It'll be gone by then.
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#3411397 - 10/16/11 06:18 PM
Re: HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain+HS+HS1 Throttle mod
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Yup, it's gone already actually -- just sold it. Thanks anyway to everyone who was interested though.
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#3413235 - 10/18/11 09:31 PM
Re: HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain+HS+HS1 Throttle mod
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Man....I -HAVE- a Warthog and I still would have been tempted to pick this up for that price.
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#3413436 - 10/19/11 02:21 AM
Re: HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain+HS+HS1 Throttle mod
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I think I'm going to get a FCC2 modded Cougar for $300 + a CH trade
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#3413464 - 10/19/11 03:07 AM
Re: HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain+HS+HS1 Throttle mod
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Well, here goes my first post on these forms.
Dammit! Hi Beazil, Welcome to SimHQ . Stick around and check out the rest of the forums and let us hear what you have to say on other topics too. Wheels
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#3414176 - 10/20/11 12:48 AM
Re: HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain+HS+HS1 Throttle mod
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I think I'm going to get a FCC2 modded Cougar for $300 + a CH trade Aw, and I only have the FCC-1 that preceded it... At least it still gives me some idea of what a force-sensing stick is supposed to be like, with some additional movement for feedback that the X-65F allegedly lacks.
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#3414200 - 10/20/11 01:48 AM
Re: HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain+HS+HS1 Throttle mod
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I think I'm going to get a FCC2 modded Cougar for $300 + a CH trade Aw, and I only have the FCC-1 that preceded it... At least it still gives me some idea of what a force-sensing stick is supposed to be like, with some additional movement for feedback that the X-65F allegedly lacks. How long did it take you to get use to flying it? Also how long have you had it?
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#3414289 - 10/20/11 06:39 AM
Re: HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain+HS+HS1 Throttle mod
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How long did it take you to get use to flying it? Also how long have you had it? Answered via PM.
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#3416063 - 10/22/11 06:03 PM
Re: HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain+HS+HS1 Throttle mod
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$240-275? *jaw drops*
It's even retained most of its paint somehow, especially on the stick.
Someone here certainly got an excellent deal. About all this one needs would be the UTM bushings and a matching set of gameport rudder pedals with a Hall sensor (modded RCS or Simpeds). Yeah that's an amazing deal, especially as Cougars are no longer manufactured, and you're getting an Evenstrain fully modded Cougar and throttle, with mod. Wow! Well done that buyer!! I'm going to be selling one of my ES modded Cougars sometime but I'll be asking full whack for it - they're rarer than hens' teeth! Cheers Nutty
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#3416150 - 10/22/11 08:21 PM
Re: HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain+HS+HS1 Throttle mod
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Yeah that's an amazing deal, especially as Cougars are no longer manufactured, and you're getting an Evenstrain fully modded Cougar and throttle, with mod. Wow! Well done that buyer!! I'm going to be selling one of my ES modded Cougars sometime but I'll be asking full whack for it - they're rarer than hens' teeth! You have an Evenstrain-modded one too? If I could arrange it, I'd just ask to trade my FCC-1 in for the Evenstrain and its Hall sensors, with cash on top if needed. (Only because while the FCC-1 excels at Falcon 4.0 and space "sims", I find it a bit overspecialized and reach for the SWFFB2 whenever playing IL-2: 1946 or RoF...plus I'm a bit curious at to the feel of the other gimbal mods.)
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#3416360 - 10/23/11 03:45 AM
Re: HOTAS Cougar w/Evenstrain+HS+HS1 Throttle mod
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Thank you for the kind welcome Wheels - any chance of you belonging to the "Wheelz" persona of Battleground Europe? No, that is someone else. Wheels
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