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#3413897 - 10/19/11 07:45 PM What Do Women Really Want?  
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Step right up folks, and take a swing at answering the most perplexing question with which the male gender has ever been faced!

So what do women really want? Here's what I know.

It's not about looks to any great degree. That's simply not it.

When dating them, you'd better come off as somewhat wild and untameable, but if you carry that too far, you're doomed. They don't want safe, secure and doting, always available, standing at the door with flowers in hand on demand. You should bring them flowers. You shouldn't neglect them. But if you become too much of a faithful old dog, you're doomed. There must be some excitement and unpredictability about you. They want a certain amount of naughtiness. But too much in either direction and you've had it. And they love self confidence in a man.

If you can learn to strike the critical balance, you'll never want for company.

And don't ever ask a woman what women want. What they'll tell you and what is really true are not the same thing. They'll give you the idealized version of what they want. But if you give it to them, they'll soon yawn and walk away after someone more exciting.

So, fellow male personnel, let's hear your insights, war stories from the battle of the sexes, successes, failures, and secrets of triumphing in the ongoing melee.

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#3413916 - 10/19/11 07:59 PM Re: What Do Women Really Want? [Re: Sauron]  
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Money, lot's of money.


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#3413918 - 10/19/11 08:00 PM Re: What Do Women Really Want? [Re: Sauron]  
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Confidence and money. Together they equal security. That's really all they want, a secure future with someone confident enough to step up and be a man.

A man can have any woman he wants, looks aren't even an issue.


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#3413919 - 10/19/11 08:02 PM Re: What Do Women Really Want? [Re: Sauron]  
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Just watch the movie with Mel Gibson and Helen Hunt and you'll get all of your answers.


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#3413942 - 10/19/11 08:16 PM Re: What Do Women Really Want? [Re: Sauron]  
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Woman are the biggest bullshiters on this planet. They tell you one thing but do another. They rarely mean what they say.

They want to be treated equally yet they want special treatment in some areas. Pisses the living hell out of me.

I always say to my girlfriends money is something you wont get from me. If she is with me because Ive got money, a nice car then i don't want her. Gold diggers are in my eyes the most disgusting kind of people.

#3413951 - 10/19/11 08:23 PM Re: What Do Women Really Want? [Re: Sauron]  
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They like dick....but not the anatomic one,the male archetype, they said they want a stable,caring man,#%&*$#,they like dicks,and they will get it,behind your back. so be a dick !

#3413964 - 10/19/11 08:35 PM Re: What Do Women Really Want? [Re: Sauron]  
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Don't listen to what they tell you what they want if you hear the usual. Take it with a grain of salt. Women are in denial or they lie- women don't want to or aren't prepared to admit to themselves they're turned
on by jerks or by material objects.

If a man ever has reservations admitting that he wants a hot body and says first and foremost he's looking for someone nice, it's just as much BS. Think of it the same way.

Men are 'shallow' about a woman's looks like women are 'shallow' about excitement and self confidence. Money might be connected to those things, but not always- money is not a sure fire thing. Think some awkward
engineer who doesn't know how to talk to women is going to get the hot ones at a booty call? He's going to lose to someone who can make himself interesting without necessarily tons of money.



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#3413965 - 10/19/11 08:36 PM Re: What Do Women Really Want? [Re: xclusiv8]  
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Originally Posted By: xclusiv8
Woman are the biggest bullshiters on this planet. They tell you one thing but do another. They rarely mean what they say.



Same across the planet - basically forget what they say because what they actually do is all that matters.

Years back I saw a girl at a club I'd tried ringing after shed given me her number and she hadnt answered. She was very nice and confirmed I had the right number and asked me to try again sometime........like a dork I rang up the next day - and even left a message on her answer phone this time - doh!!


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#3413979 - 10/19/11 08:52 PM Re: What Do Women Really Want? [Re: MigBuster]  
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Originally Posted By: MigBuster
Originally Posted By: xclusiv8
Woman are the biggest bullshiters on this planet. They tell you one thing but do another. They rarely mean what they say.



Same across the planet - basically forget what they say because what they actually do is all that matters.

Years back I saw a girl at a club I'd tried ringing after shed given me her number and she hadnt answered. She was very nice and confirmed I had the right number and asked me to try again sometime........like a dork I rang up the next day - and even left a message on her answer phone this time - doh!!



First thing you should do is ring them right away, not wait,if anything you said there now you have mine or such,if its not their phone then just say Fu in their face.

#3413986 - 10/19/11 09:04 PM Re: What Do Women Really Want? [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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Originally Posted By: Blade_RJ


First thing you should do is ring them right away, not wait,if anything you said there now you have mine or such,if its not their phone then just say Fu in their face.


What come across as mr desperate - thats a big fail I've learnt - they don't want or like a lap dog running after them!!


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#3413999 - 10/19/11 09:19 PM Re: What Do Women Really Want? [Re: Sauron]  
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Or negative vibes. It's better to try and learn something from female psychology- then you can turn it around and get inside their heads, rather than resist it or tell them all the time how messed up
dating is, you're tired of the games and all that. They might sympathize, but it's a downer. Only a desperate or needy person wouldn't care about your attitude.

Get over what society has been telling you from the beginning, that's the first step. Attitude goes further than most everything else.



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#3414000 - 10/19/11 09:20 PM Re: What Do Women Really Want? [Re: Sauron]  
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What ? is that how uk women operate ? if you ring them after they give you their number,you are desperate ? if they gave you the number they are interested in something. i always did that,just to confirm i wasnt being played at, and here they are always cool with it.

#3414027 - 10/19/11 09:48 PM Re: What Do Women Really Want? [Re: Sauron]  
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Lol, ho, yeah, what do the want. After 67 years I still am not sure but I think they like sex as much or more than we do and look for someone that can make them feel alive in bed. Also they want you to take command right from the start, don't show an hesitation, go straight for it and get it done.

Of coures this is all before thay leave you.


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#3414062 - 10/19/11 10:21 PM Re: What Do Women Really Want? [Re: Sauron]  
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Well, i disagree a bit with the looks.A lot of the time the initial interest is looks.I know this one bird who always goes for the surfey type, hot toned bod, wavey blond beach hair etc, she always gets burned lol, but she continus..and she is far from a stupid lady, quite the opposite, but she is hopeless when she spots 'her' type.I know a few ladies like that.I work with another lady, she always goes for the guy that looks like he fell out of a shaving advertisement..and they end up being her not mr right.

Humour and confidence i think are the big two.I think that will get you further than dashing good looks though, although the looks are definitely a bonus , but you do not need to be james bond, thats a fantasy.James Bond, humour,confidence,good in bed, secure,wild but ready to snuggle and watch a romcom on a friday night and then go skydiving saturday morning.Nows there's a profile biggrin

If you can make them laugh you have your foot half in the door.Come across as a can do guy who can walk the walk and not just talk it.Have an actual interest in them and what they do, what they want to do/achieve.LISTEN and not just nod your head while thinking of the next CLOD patch.Of course sex does come into it a lot more these days than it may have used to.Ladies know what they want regards bedroom performance now and if you aint supplying it well they do not kick back anymore and put up with it like they used to..i'm looking at you mr 1 minute action! biggrin Of course they can sort themselves out, and do, trust me, ladies are not scared of being extremely sexual anymore, they are really out there.There sexual appetite can makes us look like a dead stick once you give them what they want, and they want more.Not saying they are running around dragging men off the streets and banging them to death, but you show them the light and they really want it switched on a lot more than they may have accepted in the past.

Wild and untameable, i agree with that, they definitely want a bit off that in their man, have not met a lady who doesn't.Not Bear Grylls style running around the back yard eating spiders and sucking water out of tree bark at dinner though.Someone who can drop everything and say, lets head for the hills for the weekend , right now!Grab your g string and some steak we are out of here! biggrin Make them feel beautiful and exciting,because they are and you want them to know that, flowers, yep, random out of the blue gestures, romance, defininitely.One girl i dated i drove to hers ,covered her car in flowers at about 3 in the morning , and snuck away,she rang me in the morning and demanded i get there before work!Didn't have time for toast wink

But then everytime i think i have a bit more figured out they throw a curve ball..they are really a work in progress.


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Looks don't hurt, but it may be a case of putting the cart before the horse. Is the guy confident because he believes he has the looks (even if only so-so?) - which the woman finds to be a turn on? Statistically, there are more average or less than average looking guys than model looks, but if they knew what to do, they can get the girl- and not necessarily just the 'average' girls, either. So many times I've heard girls talk about the guys they just met, and the way they described them I would think they're talking about the best looking guy in the world. And then what you see shows up actually looks like a snail complete with a shell and eyestalks or something, well, you see what some of us have been trying to explain.

No matter what I look like, if I have honestly convinced myself that I'm hot stuff and behave accordingly, it's amazing how other people will perceive that- that little thing. Then it becomes a self affirming circle. The more confidence I have in myself, then 'magically' it seems the more success I seem to have with women, which gives me more confidence, and so on.

On the other hand, it shows when you have no confidence- and if they detect that even you don't have confidence in yourself, then they'll see your shortcomings as you do.






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Lack of confidence equals lack of security. It's always about a secure relationship with women. Unless you're on the prowl for bimbos, the long term lasting women just want security. That's money + confidence. PM me if anyone needs tips.


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Money I discount- if money is supposed to mean a high roller or doing very well. Money can be associated with an 'exciting' or 'confident' guy, that's the connection. Guys with money can strike out a lot.I know guys who have money, they have lots of trouble getting dates- that is to say, the dates they want. They want the hot chicks who in turn go for the guys with all the tattoos at the pool hall and who don't necessarily have the best paying jobs in the world, or douchey guys who normally flash a lot of money when they go out, but are broke from doing it until next paycheck.


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Not worth spending too much time questioning what they want. If they don't know, neither can we!
Besides, I'm much more interested in what I want than what they want. biggrin

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confidence

you'll find that the people who have the worst "luck" with women and relationships are always people who have low self esteem or low confidence and drive

i used to be one of those people until, as sauron described in his original post, i decided to become wild and a little carefree. i also changed my fashion, hairstyle, etc.

what do women want? well every woman is a different person so it changes, but basically no women like a whiny, unconfident loser.

in the space of 4 years i turned myself from a regular dude, kind of a "nice guy" type into a total lady killer. the women i date now i used to consider way out of my league, now there is no league, i am the league. if you can create this confidence and attitude in yourself you'll be able to provide what women want every time.

for those of you who are still dating this means:
1) on dates, take the lead and have a date plan. be flexible, but basically lead the woman along your plan
2) be aggressive and let a woman know what you think about her. a lot of guys just don't have the balls to tell a woman when she looks good. grow a pair!
3) if you're good looking and stylish, and if your date chemistry is decent, invoke a little jealousy. don't do this if you're bad with women, it takes some practice.
4) "nice guys" ALWAYS LOSE! you wanna be a nice guy all the time, the guy that all your female friends can "talk to" then get your right hand warmed up because you'll need it. don't be a "nice guy" be a wolf, let the losers eat the scraps you leave behind.


money? not really that important as long as you've got enough to go out and have fun and live normally. money will get you gold diggers, but gold diggers will still go for a stylish guy with confidence who doesn't have much money, all while you're out earning all that cash.

looks? looks are important for a few reasons. if you're fat then it means you don't take care of yourself and have no discipline. if you're fat, get thinner, it's not that hard. if your hair style sucks, get some interest in styling and make it look good. your average 10$ haircut doesn't fly. spend more on a good haircut and you'd be surprised how much better it makes you look. stop cutting your hair by yourself if you're one of those people. i used to do it too. it doesn't look that good. if you're bald, find a wardrobe that coordinates well with a shaved head. combovers are a total no-no, and so are baseball caps. either go bare-headed or find a cool looking hat to match your wardrobe.

clothes...wear clothes that appeal to the type of woman you want to attract. in my case i like flashy, music-loving girls, so guess what kind of clothing i wear?

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Longbow has it. Guys need to do it without gushing, even if it sounds corny or just like another line- I'll tell women, "What you just did right there was unbelievably damn hot," instead of "You're really pretty' or something. They'll get all giggly or blush- seriously. I'll look them up and down once as I walk past and let them know I'm doing it- start at eye level, go down, then go back up and end up at their eyes again. They are just as much turned on when you let them know you are checking them out and you have the other ingredients.


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