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#3411183 - 10/16/11 04:48 AM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: citizen guod]  
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I am blown away by this sim and Chris' video review. Not only does the sim on my rig look as good as the video, but I didn't have to pay a penny for it. That simply amazes me. I'm delighted that I kept my old Falcon 4.0 original kit (with the single greatest manual ever produced for a sim).

Chris, you are such an asset to this community. Not only do you write the most enjoyable reviews and AARs, but you seem a decent gentleman, husband and father. If you're ever in Seattle, the wife and I will have to buy you a drink. Thanks for helping to make this site and our hobby a joy to maintain. beercheers


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#3411198 - 10/16/11 05:33 AM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: citizen guod]  
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Really liked the video. smile

Not a complaint just an observation. I don't play the jets sims, never could get any of them to load on my machines, so I was clueless when you used an abbreviation or two and had to look them up.
Of course I could be wrong with what I found so if you use the full term with the abbreviations that you use at least once in the article it will help the clueless like me know what it is you meant. It also will aid in our ability to look up the correct item.

Article:
CCIP - Constantly computed impact point (Yes/No ?)

Video:
CCRP - ??

Wow!, They even took the time to detail the phillips head screw slots that are holding the cockpit instruments.



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#3411252 - 10/16/11 10:22 AM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: citizen guod]  
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CCRP = Continuously Computed Release Point - which is kind of a primary bombing mode for dumb bombs - but also used as part of other modes like Dive Toss, and for GPS and Laser Guided bombs in the sim.


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#3411367 - 10/16/11 04:41 PM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: JCathcart]  
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Originally Posted By: Pinetree
Wait 'til you have two (both under 2). One's easy. biggrin
(Got another one coming in March, Damn..)


Congrats! That is hope though..down the road they can play with each other and you can sneak away for some sim time.. wink

Originally Posted By: JCathcart
Thanks for helping to make this site and our hobby a joy to maintain.

Thanks for the kind words. It would be a whole lot harder if I didn't enjoy our hobby so much... I stand amazed at the progress of not only this sim, but the DCS series and Strike Fighters, etc.. Now is a great time to be a simmer for sure..

Wheels - Yep..Constantly (I've seen Continuously used too) Computed Impact Point and Continuously Computed Release Point.. Interestingly, both are actually computer controlled and you are just giving consent by hitting the pickle button. In some circumstances you could actually hold the pickle button down for a dozen seconds or more before the bombs actually release.

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#3411673 - 10/17/11 01:37 AM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: citizen guod]  
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Thanks for the explanation on the abbreviations MigB and Beach. I tried Google but it wouldn't play nice.


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#3412108 - 10/17/11 05:17 PM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: citizen guod]  
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#3412166 - 10/17/11 06:37 PM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: citizen guod]  
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What's with the sounds? The engines sound very staticy (yeah I made the word up.) Is that how it sounds in the sim?

#3412182 - 10/17/11 06:54 PM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: citizen guod]  
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In the video with the review - no..that is probably the result of my Adobe Premiere converting the sound portion of the FRAPS footage. Disregard that...



#3412331 - 10/17/11 09:37 PM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: citizen guod]  
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The difference between the two is that CCRP calculates the error between the impact point and the 'designated' target, and provides steering cues/release to hit that target, while CCIP just displays the impact point, allowing faster engagement of dispersed or opportunity targets with a reasonable degree of accuracy - errors in range may be greater as there is no 'pickle' on solution, and it relies on visual estimation of error... more than made up for by using multiple weapons, or CBU with a larger footprint...

#3412369 - 10/17/11 10:15 PM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: citizen guod]  
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Hi Chris
Thanks for the great review and we hope to continue to be the Benchmark in flight sims.
cheers
Ray

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#3412731 - 10/18/11 08:55 AM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: Boomer]  
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Originally Posted By: Helo_Head
admin edit: link for registered BMS forum users

Thanks for the link but you need to be logged in to see that thread.


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#3412820 - 10/18/11 12:45 PM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: citizen guod]  
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LOL, I would have a lot more time if all I had was my 6 month old! The 3 yr old on top of that makes gaming of any kind while they're awake very difficult. So, after 9PM pretty much, and if you're lucky a few hours in the afternoon on weekends while they nap!



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#3413239 - 10/18/11 09:36 PM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: Jedi Master]  
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Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
LOL, I would have a lot more time if all I had was my 6 month old! The 3 yr old on top of that makes gaming of any kind while they're awake very difficult. So, after 9PM pretty much, and if you're lucky a few hours in the afternoon on weekends while they nap!



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We have a 4 month old right now. For a while, I thought after he goes down would be a good time for games and other fun stuff...

WRONG!!!

Once he's down, it's time for momomy and daddy to get some much needed sleep! I fired up SF2 the other night from 1-3 AM after I got up to calm him down and I couldn't get back to sleep. That's the only gaming I've done in the last few weeks.


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#3413611 - 10/19/11 10:12 AM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: citizen guod]  
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the burning wrecks are really well done. the smoke effects especially are quite superior to anything i've seen from dcs, actually.

#3413900 - 10/19/11 07:46 PM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: citizen guod]  
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Looks amazing! I wish I had the time and patience to learn something as in depth as this.


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#3414124 - 10/19/11 11:35 PM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: anderson8006]  
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Originally Posted By: anderson8006
Now that the original goal of Falcon 4 has been completely achieved,


Yep.
Little did I know as I raced to Electronics Boutique on my lunch break and almost giddily pick up my Falcon 4.0 binder, that I'd
have to wait 13 years before the sim sitting next to me on my car seat would actually be ready.

Of course I guess now I have to repurchase the thing. ( I probably won't - no time to learn jet sims nowadays)
I do miss the campaign builder in F4 though - still the best I've seen. I used to spend more time designing missions
than flying. A few modern sims could learn a thing or three from it.

Great review Beach.




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#3414179 - 10/20/11 12:53 AM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: Gambit21]  
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Originally Posted By: Gambit21
Little did I know as I raced to Electronics Boutique on my lunch break and almost giddily pick up my Falcon 4.0 binder, that I'd
have to wait 13 years before the sim sitting next to me on my car seat would actually be ready.


LOL..that is so funny..and so true. Although we did have some pretty good stuff in between. The FreeFalcon stuff and Allied Force were nice notches in that direction (and the previous BMS versions).. But to have stability AND beauty.. Wow..

Can't wait to MP..



#3414190 - 10/20/11 01:25 AM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: citizen guod]  
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Can't wait to stop working these 12 hour shifts so I can fly again. I have 4 kids 11, 10, 9 and almost 3 years old. I get to fly a few hours during the week, when the wife is at school and Friday and Saturday night from about 11pm-5am. i work Mid shift so I'm up all night and try to keep that schedule during my days off.


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#3414205 - 10/20/11 01:54 AM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: citizen guod]  
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Four! Wow.. I don't know how you do it man.. Good on ya'.. I'm lucky that I have those night shift swings of 4 days on and I can stay up super late on those nights.



#3418317 - 10/25/11 07:23 PM Re: Review: Benchmark Sims 4.32 for Falcon 4.0 [Re: citizen guod]  
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Beach, you little rippa. Thanks for the review.

My original F4 box set was (like another) going to rear its ugly head on e-bay. I guess i am going to have to try like the rest of the dads here, to find the time to re-learn this bird (never fully got into F4 as the graphics did put me off)

But one question.

As you have brought to light again... Falcon 4. Is this going to highlight the shortcommings or necessities / pros and cons of having a dynamic campaign and the lack of such things in sims like DCS (which is my sole sim atm)?

I would be intersted in your viewpoint as a fellow Sim junkie (and RL pilot) what this portion of the sim (Dynamic Campaign) means for you.

I understand my last question can be a flame thread starter, so if for interests of safety within the board community and flame retardant vests, if you prefer to not answer that question, that is fine.

Best regards,
Bogus

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