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I'm not big on the zombie movie/game thing either, other than Zombieland--which is just plain funny. This one is a big exception to the usual zombie deal. It's what I wanted Fallen Skies to be more like, actually. Not so much about the zombies, but the survivors. Completely different, you feel sorry for the zombies as victims most of the time. They don't rely on darkness to be creepy either, the majority of it is set during the daytime. It's more drama than horror. You'd like it.
Exactly. Its about the survivors...desperate to survive, yet clinging to whatever they have left, emotions...
Watched the pilot/first ep on Friday again...powerful stuff. The guy telling his kid to read his comics while he shoots out the window at zombies...I wouldnt dare offer spoilers, but yea, worth checking out even if you arent into the typical zombie movie, 'cause this one isnt typical.
Part of the appeal is that they did a good job of casting people who can do believable drama with an HD camera stuck in their faces!
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I'm a massive zombie fan (we all should be so we know what to do when the apocalypse comes!) and can't wait to acquire it on Monday
Just bought the Walking Dead novel yesterday entitled The Rise of the Governor which focuses on Philip Blake who becomes the Governor in the graphic novel. Apparently The Governor will appear in the show but not in this series as has been stated around the net, perhaps in series 3.
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Excellent! More gore it seems, but that kicks off the season I guess. The church crew was pretty creepy, not sure why they would be sitting there like that, but oh well. For a season 2 opener, which simply can't be as good as the pilot, I'd say they did a good job.
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it was outstanding and the ending was unexpected.
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I was really suprised how closely they are sticking to the Walking Dead comic book storyline, which is good because no one charater is totally safe and should keep the story fresh. A+
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Well, my interest piqued by all the noise about the new series I acquired the first few eps from last year and watched them yesterday night - great stuff.
Also funny to see the very British Andrew Lincoln (known in the UK for various comedy/drama roles) putting in such a convincing performance as the American lead.
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I truly believe it is what makes the series great, the acting is very good.
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The other day I was watching Strike Back for the first time (UK show about MI6 and SAS covert), and wondered where I'd seen that face before...and I thought "geez he looks like he could be brothers ro the guy in Walking Dead", but didnt think more of it. When you mentioned a Brit actor i had to check, and sure enough its the same guy!
I just love the main theme...its so...rivetting, like the Z's are just around the corner!
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I watched 3 episodes of Strike Back and I couldn't watch anymore. The first one was stupid when they stormed that building in Iraq and just hung around on the staiwell shooting instead of getting on the helo just so the stupid story could pan out!
Up to episode 5, loving it. As far as survival dramas go this is far, far beyond things like Falling Skies and Terra Nova, although not having to conform to the same audience demographic sensibilities probably helps. Really gripping stuff.
Re: Andrew Lincoln, also known for Love Actually (if you have a woman who likes girly films), and the legendary UK drama This Life.
The latter also kick-started the career of Jack Davenport (Pirates of the Caribbean, Flash Forward).
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Ep 2 was better than the first I thought and it's certainly got off to a good start. I have noticed the zombies have a quicker pace though, but then I guess I can live with that for story telling purposes.
I thought the ones at the end last night were pretty fast too, compared to other situations. They weren't any "fresher" either. Some were practically running. I thought it might be that they're faster in a competitive mob, but they weren't as fast in ATL. That's the first time I thought anything wasn't going smoothly though, they might show some kind of explanation eventually.
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It's obvious that there are only going to be 2 kinds of people after the zombie apocalypse... Those with silenced .22LR rifles (and large stockpiles of .22LR) and those without!
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Maybe they are faster after a fresh feeding? Maybe in Atlanta they were too hungry/weak to be fast, but maybe at the highschool they had some fresh meat?
I dunno, you can get to the point of overthinking zombie movie plots very quickly and without much effort!
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Interesting how Daryl is fast becoming my favorite character after not liking him much at all to begin with. Wonder when Merle will make another appearance?
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I want to see the big reveal soon. That doctor at the CDC tested them all and said "no surprises" about the blood tests. At the end he whispered something to Rick that Rick wasn't happy about, and that the end was inevitable or something. I'm thinking they're all infected or carriers, and if they die or get too sick they'll go zombie nation. I'd keep a close eye on T-Dog and Carl. Wondering if that transfusion between Rick and Carl will work in there as good or bad in that respect too.
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Honestly I was thinking Darrel might have to to be put down, now I am feeling he maybe intergal to their survival. I wonder when thye are going to start thinking long term instead of just survival. I have to say I am enjoying this show and am quite surprised by how well acted it is. I find some things not well thought out, like the fema thing with a lot ambulances just sitting there. I personally would have thought they would have at least look thru them then maybe gone for the supply shed.
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I thought they were going to set off a police siren as a distraction, not just flares. Maybe it was too close by. A big fire from a flare in a gas tank might have lasted longer too. I guess it's easier when you aren't 20' from 50 zombies. LOL
Well, I just got around to watching the season 2 opener last night. I didn't think it could get any better than the previous series but wow - that was seriously the best slice of TV I've had in months. I love that the zombies seem to have a little bits of smarts to them.
I'm not sure why it's inconsistent with the walker/runner zombies, but I like it since it adds to the tension of not knowing what kind of zombie they might run into. While I have always prefered the Romero type zombies to the uber zombies in the Dawn of the Dead remake, I can understand why they decided to mix it up. Romero type zombies work great in films but would probably lose their scare factor real fast in a weekly TV series.
Now Atlanta has some runners and of all things climbers too, check out last seasons episode "Guts" when they stole the box van at the construction site. Some of those zombies scaled that 12' chain link fence like it was nothing.
The one thing I'm really waiting for since there seem to be all these M1 Abrams lying around is for one of the survivers to take one for a test drive
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Umm...I don't think it's been mentioned yet, unless there was a vague hint at CDC...I don't think any of the people on the show have any idea how it started. It seemed to have spiraled out of control very fast.
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They just mentioned being like a virus or something, but not where it came from. I bet they don't cover it, part of what's cool about it is the ignorance of "what's going on and why" on the part of the survivors.
In the after-show "the talking dead" they mentioned how it's set in a world that doesn't have knowledge of zombies, as in movies etc, which is why they call them walkers. The writer said that in the graphic novel series they sometimes slip with mentioning "zombie" but they prefer not to say it.
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In the after-show "the talking dead" they mentioned how it's set in a world that doesn't have knowledge of zombies, as in movies etc, which is why they call them walkers. The writer said that in the graphic novel series they sometimes slip with mentioning "zombie" but they prefer not to say it.
Ah - thanks for that. I guess as long as they are internally consistent then it makes sense.
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Another great episode! Dwaye continues to become the best and most likable character. Rick's wife more and more the least likable. Next week's episode looks like it's going to be HUGE! Wonder if Merle has the girl?
In the after-show "the talking dead" they mentioned how it's set in a world that doesn't have knowledge of zombies, as in movies etc, which is why they call them walkers. The writer said that in the graphic novel series they sometimes slip with mentioning "zombie" but they prefer not to say it.
Ah - thanks for that. I guess as long as they are internally consistent then it makes sense.
Actually, ever since started by Romero, part of the Zombie mythos is that the word "zombie" is never used to describe the zombies.
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Another great episode! Dwaye continues to become the best and most likable character. Rick's wife more and more the least likable. Next week's episode looks like it's going to be HUGE! Wonder if Merle has the girl?
Go Glen! Get some! LOL
I find the characters less likeable in this series and especially Dale, he's a real know-it-all that thinks he's in charge. I just wouldn't have anyone telling me whether I could have a weapon or not.
He means well, but yeah, they do take liberties for a group that hasn't actually put anyone in charge. A lot of chiefs in there. No wonder the other group doesn't want them to stay, really. I keep waiting for Otis to show up and someone to notice a shot in his leg (if he still has one). I get why Shane did that, they were screwed and neither would get back, but he could've at least taken the bag first and then shot the guy in the head. No agonizing death, wouldn't turn into a walker.
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I think Otis got chewed up pretty well, lots of blood in the scene, so it would have be a real 'JR wasn't really shot' plot device to bring him back. I think Shane wounded him to give himself the best chance of getting away, i.e. the walkers like the thrashing around and struggle, a head-shot might have made him less tasty.
PS I haven't seen last nights episode yet so if the above sounds daft then that's half the reason.
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I think Otis got chewed up pretty well, lots of blood in the scene, so it would have be a real 'JR wasn't really shot' plot device to bring him back. I think Shane wounded him to give himself the best chance of getting away, i.e. the walkers like the thrashing around and struggle, a head-shot might have made him less tasty.
PS I haven't seen last nights episode yet so if the above sounds daft then that's half the reason.
For about five minutes, I thought that the thing they pulled out of the well was Otis. Poor Glen - what a way to help the gang out. Still, at least he got his reward later.
I think this is about the best show on TV just now. A couple of the characters are really whiny and irritating but I think that's my only complaint with it. It's ace.
WOW, shell shocker end of tonight's episode. Just WOW.
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I have a theroy about that, mainly people close to them. I could be wrong tho.
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I have a theroy about that, mainly people close to them. I could be wrong tho.
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I agree, after watching it again, love a DVR. Not a wonder they are not being made more welcome since the secret they hide will force them to do something if found out. Now What will happen to the forbidden sexual encounters. Some serious limp dick after finding them.
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I think the daughter and a few others will be joining the original group on the road after the walkers decide to move into that house. LOL Agreed that's probably a corral for family or members of their group that turned. Possibly a moral dilemma about putting them down, surely they aren't expecting a cure. But did something happen to all of them at once, maybe in the barn, and they locked them in there to save themselves, or do they somehow put them in there one by one?
Going to be a long week waiting for next Sunday`s new episode.
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I just wish the little girl would come back and eat her mom's brains. That mom is getting annoying. Maybe if we are lucky, she will eat Lori's brains and the unborn baby too.
I am still enjoying the show, but I want more action. Hell, I would even be happy that if in the next episode, they sit up in the top of the barn and pick off zombies like they are shooting fish in a barrel.
I just wish the little girl would come back and eat her mom's brains. That mom is getting annoying. Maybe if we are lucky, she will eat Lori's brains and the unborn baby too.
I am still enjoying the show, but I want more action. Hell, I would even be happy that if in the next episode, they sit up in the top of the barn and pick off zombies like they are shooting fish in a barrel.
I agree, it would be nice every once in a while (even if it deviates from the comics and is cliche) for them to hunker down in a house and fend off a massive zombie attack with shot guns and baseball bats!
That being said, I will be fine if they don't change a thing. Definitely one of the best shows on TV.
Gotta say, Lori is the most obnoxious character in there. Unfortunately, seems they're going to stick with her for the long haul. Rick deserves better. LOL Shane at least gets in interesting predicaments to work through, although pretty disgusting as a two-faced best friend. I guess that's why the show is so good: everyone is properly flawed. Rick holds them together, but he's a little naive, as his own flaw.
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Shane just ain't right, after what he did to Otis. He's about like the Shane from The Shield. Though I doubt that Rick'll end up behind a desk working for the federal government.
Herschel's turning downright evil. What's on with that barn isn't going to end pretty.
Shane just ain't right, after what he did to Otis. He's about like the Shane from The Shield. Though I doubt that Rick'll end up behind a desk working for the federal government.
Herschel's turning downright evil. What's on with that barn isn't going to end pretty.
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Shane was close to killing Rick last season but was stopped. The barn will make Sunday`s episode really interesting, I have a feeling they might not all be family, but people from the traffic jam on the highway. Only 1 more day till we find out.
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You all must not have read the comics? I am quite glad how they have followed most of the major events like the barn...
I haven't read the comic. I heard there is a place online that you can read them all in order. I have avoided it though.
As far as Shane shooting Otis, I can see that happening when the real zombie overlords start taking over the world. So Cat, you want to hang around with me when this all comes down? I don't have to be fast, just faster than you.
In a post-show discussion, the writer said they're going to go by the comic, but not 100%. Never read it, so I won't know the difference, but that sounds like the right approach to keep it fresh but loyal to the story.
Re: barn, I kinda presumed as the guy is a vet that he's experimenting with some professional interest to either cure or kill more efficiently. Never read the comics so don't know how that one ends there; did read that people may come and go in roughly the same way as the comics but timelines are different to keep fans guessing. Enjoying the show too much to want to provide 'spoilers' for myself by seeking out the comics yet (though might well do when the show is finished).
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I keep waiting for Otis to show up and someone to notice a shot in his leg (if he still has one). I get why Shane did that, they were screwed and neither would get back, but he could've at least taken the bag first and then shot the guy in the head. No agonizing death, wouldn't turn into a walker.
Shane took out Otis because he still feels he has a chance with the kid and his mom and had to save the kid. I don't think outright killing Otis would have saved him...the Walkers want live meat, and by struggling it bought Shane more time.
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As far as Shane shooting Otis, I can see that happening when the real zombie overlords start taking over the world. So Cat, you want to hang around with me when this all comes down? I don't have to be fast, just faster than you.
Not now!
I just can't go down that road. I'm pretty cold but not that cold, to play God, shoot a man in the leg, and leave him for the zombies like that just so I can get away. I'd be more likely to go down with him, trying to get us out of that. I've been in real life situations that are analogous to that, back in the day before I went into the law enforcement game, when I was working on an ambulance crew, and I nearly got myself killed because I wouldn't leave the patient, or because I was too ready to charge into unsafe situations to help someone in trouble. That said, no one knows how they're going to react to something like that til they're facing it.
I'm not ready for the Zombie Apocalypse yet. Kel-Tec still hasn't released the KSG shotgun, and that's my planned zombie-defense weapon now.
Jeez, that was intense, only leading to more speculation. Now its Hell on Wheels, getting interesting.
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You Know, AMC use be such an old movie channel, now they have really evolved into a Prime time must watch channel. Mad Men, Walking Dead, the list is long. My Sunday evenings are booked from now on.
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Not at all what I expected this episode, but eventful just the same. Did they say next week is the season end or half season end? I assume this will be a full length season this year, but maybe not pick up again until Jan/Feb. I think the girl's mother has given up hope.
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I think the girl's mother has given up hope.
If the little girl was mine I would have been out non stop looking for her, however, as just a member of the group and not related I might have to give up hope and move on too. These are dangerous times and she's been gone too long.
Could swear I saw some of those on a pegboard of tools in one of the webisodes. Thought they were going to do a tie in, but maybe it was just reusing props.
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In the barn I thought it was friends and family, yea I wonder if they going to leave soon. It is a good setup but yea know it just can't end well.
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The first time the old veterinarian dude told me that guns were not welcome on his land would be the instant I started packing up and moving on. Anti-gun sentiment in the middle of the zombie apocalypse? Really?
That one farm can't be the only isolated, relatively "walker free" place around.
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It is awfully convenient though.
I'm surprised that some other group hasn't stumbled across his property and taken it by force. Those beat their swords into plows during a zombiefest will end up being ruled by those who didn't.
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Best not to over analyize zombie movies/TV series plot holes or you will realize just how impossible the whole concept really is. Now something akin to a 28 days/weeks later is way more believable senerio but those creatures, while zombie like, are not the undead that give me the willies Hang the logic at the door for the hour and just enjoy a really damn good show.
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Best not to over analyize zombie movies/TV series plot holes or you will realize just how impossible the whole concept really is. Now something akin to a 28 days/weeks later is way more believable senerio but those creatures, while zombie like, are not the undead that give me the willies Hang the logic at the door for the hour and just enjoy a really damn good show.
Yep. See if you don't do that, then you have to think about other things. So if a zombie eats brains, what happens then? Does the digestive system turn those brains into energy? If that is the case, then there has to be compounds that the digestive system can't use. If that is the case, then how do the zombies get rid of it. You have to know where this is going don't you?
Now we have the age old question, do zombies poop? If they do, where do they do it? Since that is the case, then they probably don't flush.
Based on this information, we logically deduce (no I didn't say drop a duece)that Megan Fox is a zombie.
Best not to over analyize zombie movies/TV series plot holes or you will realize just how impossible the whole concept really is. Now something akin to a 28 days/weeks later is way more believable senerio but those creatures, while zombie like, are not the undead that give me the willies Hang the logic at the door for the hour and just enjoy a really damn good show.
Yep. See if you don't do that, then you have to think about other things. So if a zombie eats brains, what happens then? Does the digestive system turn those brains into energy? If that is the case, then there has to be compounds that the digestive system can't use. If that is the case, then how do the zombies get rid of it. You have to know where this is going don't you?
Now we have the age old question, do zombies poop? If they do, where do they do it? Since that is the case, then they probably don't flush.
Based on this information, we logically deduce (no I didn't say drop a duece)that Megan Fox is a zombie.
I always thought they just went in their pants
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Best not to over analyize zombie movies/TV series plot holes or you will realize just how impossible the whole concept really is. Now something akin to a 28 days/weeks later is way more believable senerio but those creatures, while zombie like, are not the undead that give me the willies Hang the logic at the door for the hour and just enjoy a really damn good show.
One thing I couldn't help but analyze, there was a zombie in the well. How long was he there? He seemed pretty bloated like a dead body would be in water so I'd guess he'd been there awhile. How often do they need to eat? They fed live lame chickens to the Walkers in the barn. Did they throw chickens in the well, because I'm not sure they knew about him.
WOW, tonights show really took a turn. Unbelievable what ends it.
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I figured that she was, but I wasn't expecting her to come out of the barn. Oh, BTW, Shane's a ****.
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Ridiculous to not be "allowed" to carry guns, which have kept them alive. They want to stay, but can't. They need to leave *with guns* but no one will do so. The hermit Dale is running off trying to HIDE the guns! But not his own of course. Obviously making a huge decision for the group on his own. Everything is screwed up and he wants to make changes to make it right again.
Every time I see Hershel, I think he should be holding up a beer salute with a knowing look to Chuck Yeager.
Saw the preview for the next episode in February while Hell on Wheels was showing. Going to be interesting when Shane decides they are not leaving and then they find out it was Otis who was hiding the Walkers in the barn not Hershall.
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Hershel said last night it was Otis that got the walkers in the "tar pit". Got to be more to it all than just hoping for a cure. It was all mighty thin. I think Otis will still show up. Or Dale will tell everyone what he figured out about Shane.
Haven't been watching Hell on Wheels since the first episode, but I'll check the dvr just for this preview.
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Shane may have to be put down. I understand what eh was saying, but yea don't bite the hand that had you safe.
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Yeah I got a feeling Shane is heading for a nasty end, but it might take another season though. I have a feeling that his attraction to Ricks wife started way before what has been revealed so far. Ol'Dale best grow eye's in the back of his head, I'm not sure I would have let Shane know exactly what he saw that day in the woods. He came really close to murdering Rick in the woods (which I think he would have done if Dale didn't show up). But I got a feeling if something happens to Dale and Shane is somehow involved were going to have a flashback scene later where Dale probably tell's a certain someone what he saw in the woods that day. Now if it happens this way I got a good ideal of who he might have told and that person will be the one to take Shane down, and I think everyone might be suprised by who it is. Now I'm really curious to see what Rick feelings are now towards his best friend since Lori came clean, from the previews of the upcoming show it looks like the cracks in the friendship are really starting to show.
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I would agree, I felt Rick should've put a round thru his head right after the gal's daughter. But my feelings only. I do think Rick now needs assert his authority. I see bad things in store for Dale too.
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Dale screwed up a couple of ways. Taking it on himself to remove the guns (while keeping HIS) was a stupid move, I thought Shane was right about that. Showing his hand to Shane a couple of times now is pushing his luck in a world where people tend to go missing. The group would be wise to split up for a while, I'm sure some would go with Shane and Andrea. Doubt that will happen, the mix of personalities keeps it all going.
Saw a video of an interview with "Shane" and "Daryl" that G4 did. I was surprised to hear that Dwayne wasn't in the story before the show came about. He's my favorite character, so it's nice to see that the writing is going so well and not just dependent on the books.
Normally I would agree, but someone must have put Dale in charge of the weapons (probably Rick), probably for security and ammo conservation issues. But after seeing what Shane almost did, Andreas stupid little sniper stunt, and Carls stealing a handgun I don't see anything changing soon.
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I was soooo glad he died as he was becoming a liability. You cannot expect to live like 'it used to be' and expect everyone else in the world who wants to take what's yours to just say 'oh ok we'll leave them alone'.
I`ll bet little Carl will go out find the gun he stole and lost where the zombie attacked him and comes back with it and shoots the kid in the barn in the final episode.
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I`ll bet little Carl will go out find the gun he stole and lost where the zombie attacked him and comes back with it and shoots the kid in the barn in the final episode.
Thats the other thing why didn't someone go down and kill the zombies standing in the water. Why don't the make sure there is nothing with in a mile of the farm maybe.
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Thats the other thing why didn't someone go down and kill the zombies standing in the water. Why don't the make sure there is nothing with in a mile of the farm maybe.
I presume Carl did not tell him he found them because he was not supposed to be there and he lost a gun there?
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I've been avoiding this thread all week until I could finally crank up the dvr. LOL Great episode! Agreed on Carl, I thought he was going to walk up and pop the guy, like C Thomas Howell's character did emotionlessly back in Red Dawn.
Carl's becoming as annoying as his mother now. Things always happen when someone goes solo, hard to believe they still do that. LOL I'm a little disappointed that they've spent the entire season at that farm. I keep expecting a herd to finally move through there, forcing them to leave. I guess that other camp will come looking for them before the walkers.
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Too bad about Dale, that's a horrible way to go. They should've put him down without talking about it in front of him to make it faster and easier on him. VERY interesting that Rick has 3 times now been unable to kill for the group, now even when it was one of them suffering without hope. Daryl quickly stepping up and Rick handing over his gun seemed symbolic.
Maybe next season will be T-Dog's turn to have some lines. Poor guy's just getting dragged along with no development.
Maybe next season will be T-Dog's turn to have some lines. Poor guy's just getting dragged along with no development.
I am WAY stoked for Michonne and especially THE GOVERNOR for next season.
Anyone who reads the books know TWD is primarily Rick's story. Assuming the show will follow the tone of the book, Rick is going to turn into a man possessed with keep the group alive. All other concerns fall before that end. ALL other concerns.
I think his reluctance to kill is just a dramatic setup to ensure the transformation is not lost on the viewer.
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The bar scene was very cool, but mainly reflex. Not that he doubted himself later, as he shouldn't have. Sophie was dead already. It's different when you have time to know what you're doing and it's a living being and not a clear life preservation situation. IMO, that kid would first thing go back to that group and bring them back. After his treatment, it's not like he could be integrated. They need to make another effort to drive him out to leave him, but WAY out. Seems that the roads are pretty clear.
Shane is supposed to die soon, so that will change Rick and I think he will be the one thinking more like Shane is now. I know this because the actor who plays Shane was signed to a new series.
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Carl's becoming as annoying as his mother now. Things always happen when someone goes solo, hard to believe they still do that. LOL I'm a little disappointed that they've spent the entire season at that farm. I keep expecting a herd to finally move through there, forcing them to leave. I guess that other camp will come looking for them before the walkers.
Maybe next season will be T-Dog's turn to have some lines. Poor guy's just getting dragged along with no development.
Agree 100% about Carl (and Lori). I find myself wishing the little #%&*$# would either get the snot beat out of him or zombified. Hell, both of them. I hope they do something with T-Dog as well. What little they've touched on so far he has been a good character.
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I wonder whether the other group is 'The Governor's' group? If you read the comics or the novel 'The Rise of The Governor' you will know who he is. If not then I wonder if Daryl's brother will turn up again? I kept expecting the kid they have captive to mention a one handed man and then Daryl would betray them....?
I don't think Randell is going to be around long. If you noticed when Karl excaped from the walker stuck in the mud it managed somehow to "find" it way onto the farm. I have ofter wondered if these walkers can follow a living humans scent trail, kind of hinted to in the first season episode "Guts". We have seen in the next episodes preview Randell excapes, but I think he is going to run into some walkers while trying to return to his group. Wouldn't be suprised if those walkers follow his scent trail or one of the group that you know will be searching for him, leading the walkers right back to the farm, were it will be overrun, more mayhem will result and Shane will blame Rick for not exacuting Randell and letting the farm get overrun. I think Shane is going to make his move soon after this, but I hope they follow the comic book closely as to who actually takes Shane out.
I have to admit I'm a little confused by the killing off of Dale. Regardless if you felt he was a asset to the group or an ineffectual group member it does seem the show has an adversion to seasoned citizens, guess you can't have more then one main cast member in the over 50 crowd What I would love to see in the show is a new cast member who's charater (and age) is along the lines of Bill from the game Left 4 Dead, he's one badass older dude.
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Had to look that up, I didn't watch Lost. I do think that guy could be saying anything and everything he has to. They haven't even asked Maggie about him to verify anything. He conveniently said she didn't know him, but that's not exactly a big city they live in there. Carl would've been in deep trouble if he'd gotten too close.
Its about to begin, the final episode. Will Carl find the gun ?
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Double that. Who would have thought that Shane was all along ?
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Amazing episode. Could see it coming with all of the "goodbye" type stuff, but still hard to watch. IMO, Shane being a survivor probably would've done Rick in, but I think mainly all he knew is it was going to end one way or the other in that field.
For such an uneventful season, it's now been pretty darn eventful. LOL Still not as good as season 1, but still good. In the end, they're a stronger group now.
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now that it's pretty much out that everyone is a carrier, and come back even faster this way, will Rick come clean about what the CDC guy whispered to him at the end of season 1?
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Knocking off two primary characters in two episodes, good effort from the writers there. Glad the Shane thing was wrapped up here, there wasn't really anywhere else they could go, but lesser shows would probably have tried to drag another season out of the tension.
Was that the last one or is the finale next week?
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I thought the last one was next week but that's just me guessing as they will want to go out on a bang and it looks they're gonna get one with all those 'visitors' that are on the way!
Hope it's not a year before the next season. Looks like the next one will be a few episodes longer.
Hmmm, if they're all carriers of the disease, what happens if Lori's baby is stillborn in the womb?
The T-Virus, Oooops wrong Zombie show. Had to wonder that to, conceived during the outbreak makes more likely there will be some sort of birth defect. Kinda scary to think about it.
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There is one next week, at least according to Bear's blog.
For last week's episode: "Judge, Jury, Executioner was a challenging musical experience for me. However, nothing could prepare me for the task of scoring the final two episodes of Season 2. The following two episodes will take the series, and my score, to exciting and terrifying new places."
The season finale should have some serious badassery. Lots of zombie killing loving.
After killing two characters in two episodes, I am looking forward to the twist they are going to leave us with next Sunday. My thinking is that it will be the reappearance of Merle or the guy and his kid that gave Rick a place to stay in the early original episodes.
I keep expecting them to pop up, but they haven't come close. Unless they're in the other survivor group in town. Could be that other group shows up and helps with the herd. Then they have the tension of whether or not to admit to the scene in the bar and one of their group killing off the hostage guy. They would have a lot to answer for. They also have half of the group that hasn't really had anything to do with the story so far. Didn't Hershel say something about 14 people in 1 house? That leaves 5-6 we don't know anything about doesn't it?
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Oooohh.
I just realized something. The title of the show isn't referring to the Zombies is it?
With the reveal last night, it makes sense now..
Edit: Also, this - http://i.imgur.com/JcGoF.jpg
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What I don't get is this, if you get bit by one of these things you die soon after from infection, supposedly due to whatever organism is reanimating the dead. However if all of the survivors have it to begin with, shouldn't they all be very very dead by now? If the actual killing agent is due to a simple infection contracted due to close interactions with a corpse, shouldn't antibiotics be sufficient to stave off the infection? Should I just stop thinking so much about the show and simply enjoy it?
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What I don't get is this, if you get bit by one of these things you die soon after from infection, supposedly due to whatever organism is reanimating the dead. However if all of the survivors have it to begin with, shouldn't they all be very very dead by now? If the actual killing agent is due to a simple infection contracted due to close interactions with a corpse, shouldn't antibiotics be sufficient to stave off the infection? Should I just stop thinking so much about the show and simply enjoy it?
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I was suprised Rick took out Shane, it had to be done but still.
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The fast change could be due to having it in their system for so long now maybe? Andrea's sister certainly took a while, maybe even half a day. With the final episode coming up, we might not yet be done with the deaths, but surely finished with the long term main character deaths. I think Hershel's a goner, he's pretty much spent. Even gave away his watch to Glenn, like passing on the responsibility for his daughter(s).
Good call on the title FF, didn't occur to me. Another reason not to just call it "zombies" and to avoid the term. It's always been more about the people anyway.
The creek's drying up, so I guess their protective shield is dropping. LOL If that thing was so effective, I'd be digging a quicksand moat around the house.
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My overthinking zombie question:
Where do all these mostly-intact zombies come from?
Generally zombie meets person, zombie eats person.
Seem to be an awful lot of zombies about who were just nibbled on a little before making the transition.
Good question. If there was logic involved (and there doesn't have to be for TV) then I'd speculate that the living can become Zombies without having to die first. Maybe that's what the Atlanta CDC guy whispered to Rick, something of the lines of:
'We all have the virus, and you don't need to die first for it to work..'
It would explain why so many walkers exist, and the only 'gap' is the group we see the narrative through just haven't figured it out or seen a case of it happening - yet..
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Maybe.....when you are a zombie you still think you are human and doing human things but see real live people as zombies...so, so, so all the group are really zombies and all in the shower having a dream?!?! Yeah? Yeah?
Maybe that's what the Atlanta CDC guy whispered to Rick, something of the lines of:
'We all have the virus, and you don't need to die first for it to work..'
It would explain why so many walkers exist, and the only 'gap' is the group we see the narrative through just haven't figured it out or seen a case of it happening - yet..
I have no doubt that's what he said. On top of that, remember when they first got to the CDC, he insisted on taking blood tests on them. They didn't take it seriously. The next day they jokingly asked how the tests came out and all he says was a very sober "no surprises". The group just hasn't seen any non-walker related deaths until the hostage guy and Shane so far, so they're just now figuring it out.
So pretty much anyone who died in any way since the infection started will be a zombie. It's odd that only Bicycle Girl has been the seriously torn apart one. I guess those go dormant since they can't catch anything to eat.
Not so, in the episode when Rick and Shane took Randell to that Public Works depot to drop him off, Rick made the comment to Shane that the two zombie security guards they just disposed of exhibited no signs of injuries from walkers (scratches or bites). Looks like the walkers in Walking Dead are like the zombies in the George Ramero Dead movies, once you die you come back regardless of how you died. I'm really curious to see how this all started, goverment experiment gone wrong? Terrorist? A satalite or meteroite bringing something back from space? Whatever it was is sure is pandemic in scope.
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Just a nuance of what I was proposing, it's not just that all the dead would come back every time (because everyone carries the virus now) but the only thing that would explain so many walkers is people that are healthy and alive can turn into walkers without dying first.
Think about it, in Atlanta where there were hundreds of walkers with no obvious injuries - at the beginning of the outbreak people wouldn't be dying of starvation. This would suggest that healthy people can just 'turn', perhaps if they are more susceptible than others. It would explain how entire Army camps went down with some air-spread contagion.
Perhaps the survivors group all have a rare Blood Type A+ for example, and that the Doc at Atlanta knew that when he asked for blood types. It would explain why some blood relative families survive too..
@godzilla - the show is loosely based on a series of Graphic Novels (which I haven't read), so there is probably lots of background / lore that they could use on the origins etc. Apparently it doesn't follow them too closely, as there is no Rick in the beginning for example..
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@godzilla - the show is loosely based on a series of Graphic Novels (which I haven't read), so there is probably lots of background / lore that they could use on the origins etc. Apparently it doesn't follow them too closely, as there is no Rick in the beginning for example..
This might be a spoiler for the Graphic Novel.....
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It never delves into the origins of the zombie pandemic;
@godzilla - the show is loosely based on a series of Graphic Novels (which I haven't read), so there is probably lots of background / lore that they could use on the origins etc. Apparently it doesn't follow them too closely, as there is no Rick in the beginning for example..
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Both the show and the comic books (graphic novels later, after it became a hit) start with Rick being shot in a police action.
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@godzilla - the show is loosely based on a series of Graphic Novels (which I haven't read), so there is probably lots of background / lore that they could use on the origins etc. Apparently it doesn't follow them too closely, as there is no Rick in the beginning for example..
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Both the show and the comic books (graphic novels later, after it became a hit) start with Rick being shot in a police action.
Yeah, I had read that on another board, but turns out I was completely wrong - sorry!
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@ Fearless Frog yep I'm real familiar with the graphic comic book of the Walking Dead (I own most of'em ) But unless I missed something, the comics or the novels never did explained how it all started,I'm not even sure the CDC part was in there.
About the healthy turning instant walkers I'm a little suspect of that theory, maybe certain people being immune to the virus but can carry and spread it (like a typhoid mary) while not getting sick and dying, thats quite possible. It's not really that hard to imagine how fast something like this could spread, it you have ever read Max Brooks Zombie Survival Guide he states 2 becomes 4 becomes 8 real quick, and unless your right on hand when someone expires (and fully understand whats going on) how is it possible to make sure every last potential walker is put down? An epidemic like in 1918-1919, thousands come down sick fast, die and reanimate, just how long would it take for the athorities to fully come to grips with what was really going on and react with a well thought out plan? If they react the way the military did in the show (in Atlanta) then it's not hard to imagine thousands of still healthy living beings being turned into walkers, since unless you destroy the brain you still have a walker regardless of what body parts are missing. Also I wondered something else too (this was touched upon in G.Romeros Dawn of the Dead), how many people were killed then turned walker by loved ones because they refused to turn over there deceased family memebrs to athorities for proper disposal (sort of what like Hershel was doing with his family in the barn)?
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Yeah, I can see the multiples. I guess the key fact if it only activates when you die is that 'a walker tastes bad to another walker' or something, i.e.
- I bite you, as you look yummy and non-dead. Say the neck or something easy to chew on.
- You die due to neck injury, now have the virus and become a walker on brain death.
- I stop eating you as (a) you now taste bad (being dead, like me) plus (b) you might fight back as you 'awaken'.
The end state then being two walkers, with one of them with a chewed neck but not much else wrong with it.
I do wonder how the surviors have so many squishy and liquid-flying flights with their previous cuts and mouths open - if it's a fluids transfer for the virus then they've been pretty lucky so far I think.
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I do wonder how the surviors have so many squishy and liquid-flying flights with their previous cuts and mouths open - if it's a fluids transfer for the virus then they've been pretty lucky so far I think.
I've wondered this too! Unless the virus is only transferred by saliva/mouth fluids...because they always get walker blood on them when they kill them.
The original disease may have been a very fast pandemeic that initially made everyone instantly into walkers, save those with a little stronger resistance or immune system or who were in the right place at the right time out of an infected zone. From the initial infection the walkers take over and pass it on, and the living may be carrying the disease that can only take over the body after it's dead...when the immune system shuts down.
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I think the guy at cdc told Rick that. everyone is infected and when they die, you have to put a round thru the brain. I think Shane should have been put down right after the barn. I do like Rick's moral code tho so I can not wait to see what happens now .
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Fantastic ending
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So who was the red shirt in the RV? LOL Really was a good ending to the season. I'll be ready for season 3 in about a week.
Can't wait to hear more about the jedi with the leashed up armless walkers. Assuming they were walkers, even without arms you'd think they would be trying to attack.
I had to watch the marathon today to get all caught up as I had not seen any of this seasons shows yet.
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I was glad as hell to see Shane finally get what has been coming to him and have Rick be the one to do it.
Also how the hell does Lori have any room to get pissed off at Rick when he tells her what happened.She was the one who put them in that position and really caused the main rift between them to begin with.Maybe she knows that and is really just pissed at herself and shows it toward Rick.
If she would get with the real world and stop being so naive about everything she should have seen it coming a long time ago
Also is it just me or is Carl becoming more trouble that he is worth thanks to Shanes influence.
All in all this has been one hell of a TV series.
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So who was the red shirt in the RV? LOL Really was a good ending to the season. I'll be ready for season 3 in about a week.
Can't wait to hear more about the jedi with the leashed up armless walkers. Assuming they were walkers, even without arms you'd think they would be trying to attack.
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Yeah she was cool in the comics AND best of all next season will be in the prison!!! Hope they follow the comics as that was probably my favourite bit.
Wow, how about that marksmanship! Every shot I saw last night was a direct hit to the noggin', many of them while zooming past the target in a SUV or truck, in the dark no less. I wonder why some of the group wanted to head east. I'd be saying let's go way up north like Alaska. I bet those zombies don't do too well in a cold climate. Really enjoyable episode; finally a full on zombie mass attack.
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The best shot ever was by Carl (who hadn't been allowed to shoot before) who shot Shane in the head whilst his Dad was in between them from a fair distance away
The best shot ever was by Carl (who hadn't been allowed to shoot before) who shot Shane in the head whilst his Dad was in between them from a fair distance away
Carl got to shoot when they were training everyone with Rick and Shane.
Still trying to figure out who the Lady with the cape towing behind 2 armless zombies like pets is. Is she the lady that stayed behind at the CDC ? Checked over some comic sites today and kind of lead me to that.
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I wonder why some of the group wanted to head east. I'd be saying let's go way up north like Alaska. I bet those zombies don't do too well in a cold climate. Really enjoyable episode; finally a full on zombie mass attack.
Should read/listen to World War Z, it's excellent. There's a section in there devoted to the trek north after the "great panic" - Zombies freeze in sub-zero conditions.
I dont know, for some reason I just dont think mindless zombies can overrun units like an armored division backed by Apaches/Cobras and fast movers. How the heck do miniguns, flamethrowers, Bradleys and M1s get overrun by zombies??
Unless the infection was a pandemic that turned everyone through aerial transmission, every zombie apocalypse scenrio just seems implausible.
Anyway this series is a good watch. Was more fun in the beginning with the whole sense of wonderment.
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Originally Posted By: MaceUK33
She's Michonne Jim, she was in the comics.
So like, what's her deal? And what's up with the "prison" ppl are talking about? And why tow around Zombies!? (my initial guess is they mask her smell to other walkers)
AH! Freakin cliff hangers!
But anyone who can answer is cleared hot to give some background.
I couldn't exactly make out the building they were pulling back to in the last scene, from what I could make out, it looked fortress like. A good place to stand against zombies (if such a place exists). I think I'd most want to be on an Aircraft carrier or Marine landing ship. You're your own fortress with Air-transpo to get supplies (with guns!). The ACC could use the nuke reactor to stay powered for decades,and devote fuel stores to choppers (which can fetch more fuel on land). Heck, you could find small islands with low populations, Airstike the major heards and use choppers with mini guns to pick off the rest. Now you've got agriculture.
Also, retreating to a colder climate has risks: Your banking on the soulless killing machines without feeling or without an (apparent) physical need for food to actually maintain function (or at least very little need) being stopped by the cold. If your right, you just need to survive an Alaska (or at least far North, most likely northern midwest US or Canada) winter. If your wrong, you need to survive a winter...with Zombies. Best bet is mountains. Walkers seem less adept at crossing that type of terrain than Humans.
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Originally Posted By: AggressorBLUE
Originally Posted By: MaceUK33
She's Michonne Jim, she was in the comics.
So like, what's her deal? And what's up with the "prison" ppl are talking about? And why tow around Zombies!? (my initial guess is they mask her smell to other walkers)
AH! Freakin cliff hangers!
But anyone who can answer is cleared hot to give some background.
I couldn't exactly make out the building they were pulling back to in the last scene, from what I could make out, it looked fortress like. A good place to stand against zombies (if such a place exists). I think I'd most want to be on an Aircraft carrier or Marine landing ship. You're your own fortress with Air-transpo to get supplies (with guns!). The ACC could use the nuke reactor to stay powered for decades,and devote fuel stores to choppers (which can fetch more fuel on land). Heck, you could find small islands with low populations, Airstike the major heards and use choppers with mini guns to pick off the rest. Now you've got agriculture.
Also, retreating to a colder climate has risks: Your banking on the soulless killing machines without feeling or without an (apparent) physical need for food to actually maintain function (or at least very little need) being stopped by the cold. If your right, you just need to survive an Alaska (or at least far North, most likely northern midwest US or Canada) winter. If your wrong, you need to survive a winter...with Zombies. Best bet is mountains. Walkers seem less adept at crossing that type of terrain than Humans.
It was the prison in the last shot and in the comics it was a great section of the story, hopefully they stick to it as much as they can