While we are waiting for Rotton50 to put the finishing touches to his Mossie we are working on the Bf110's of 8 ZG26...

Beautiful work

Cheers

Beautiful stuff, Mike and most attractive camo schemes
I remember a Bf 110 from ZG 26 wearing a thinly oversprayed coat of RLM 79 with the standard splinter scheme of RLM 74/75 shining through.
Will have a look for the code when returning home. Might be an additional variant.
For the 3DZ modders - are there any spare nodes left to create rounded tail fins?

Fantastic!

Lovely work Mike,

thanks for all the effort


cheers,



Pobs

Fran,

Sir Gibbo did the mod for my 'G' model. He rounded them and gave them the correct shape. Since these skins are from one of his models perhaps we can coax him to fix these. But, first, we should let him finish his bi-plane and the P-40. I can wait a bit if you can. I can always revise my skin sets when it makes them better.

And, I have B&W photos of the 3U+ A D Hptmn Georg Christl GruppenKommandeur III/ZG26,
then 3U+ D S , G S, K S, N S, X S, C S, Y S, and W S .
Any photos or plates of the other 8 Staffel machines would be a great help.

and, finally, thanks guys.

Hi Mike,
glad to hear about this "cosmetic surgery" of the 110. Thx guys for all your efforts! The earlier Bf 110s featured smaller rudders because of their weaker engines.
The 110 I was talking about was 3 U + Z T, thus from 9./ZG 26. So nothing for IM...
But I´ve got 3 U + C S for you - as background of a desert Fiat G.50.

http://weltkrieg2.de/Waffen/Kampfflugzeu...hters-px800.jpg
http://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-110/Bf-110-ZG26.8-(3U+CS).html

Caption (K.Merrick´s "Luftwaffe camouflage and markings Vol.1")is as follows:
"Bf 110s also arrived in North Africa in full European camouflage, and underwent a similar process of repainting as time and battle conditions allowed. This Bf 110D of 8./ZG 26 wore 71/02/65 and as with the Bf109s in the previous photographs, both types carried only the fuselage tactical marking of a white band..."
The colour pic IMO shows a rather brownish tinge for the camo colours so I would also agree with an interpretation like for 3U+ZT:
"Bf 110C 3U+ZT was captured near Derna. An eyewitness account of this aircraft described it as having two-tone brown upper surfaces. The camouflage is rather dark and may have been in 79 and 80; the latter, when sprayed in thinned down form to produce the heavy side mottling, produced a brownish colour effect". IMO this might fit for 3U+CS as well.

http://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-110/Bf-110-ZG26.9-(3U+ZT)/pages/1-Bf-110F-9.ZG26-(3U+ZT)-Sicily-1941-01.html
http://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-110/Bf-110-ZG26.9-(3U+ZT).html

So you might be able choose between a dusted standard camo, a thinly oversprayed standard camo or the proposed 79/80 combination
Certainly you know the set of propaganda shots with 3U+KS flying over the Med together with SB+GD. SB+GD still wears its factory code but most certainly was assigned to 8./ZG 26...

Btw, did you use this list?

http://www.asisbiz.com/Bf-110.html

Danke Fran.

Here is the 3rd schwarm

3U+CS


3U+DS


3U+KS


3U+NS

Yummie skins Mike! Top draw!!

Mike,

Send me the tail 3dz's and the accompanying pcx files for the 110 and I can round off those rudders in about 15 minutes.

Roger that Ray. They'll be there shortly.

Schwarm 4

3U+ES


3U+JS


3U+WS


3U+YS


The High Rez D3D version is finished except for 2 final model tweaks courtsy of Ray "Rotton50"s reshaping the rudders. Thanks Ray.

III ZG26 Jabbo mission

If you get a chance, show them the wheels too.

Bloody nice skins Mike!

Very cool...

OK Ray.

Wheels!







Thanks for all your help here.

very nice fins n wheels blokes..top drawer!

Ah, thank you, Mike, for displaying those nice wheels.

It never ceases to amaze me how the original 1998 designers of EAW skimped on such things. It wasn't to preserve nodes that's for sure. Most if not all of the original models didn't come close to using up the 255 modes available to them for each of them, except maybe the heavy bombers.

The left over nodes should have been used to round off the wheels, wing tips, canopies, rudders and any other non-square edges.

The only two reasons I can think of is time constraint or lack of computing power. However, adding these extra modes take no more than a half hour per 3dz model so we're only talking about an extra 15 hours worth of work for the original 30 planes. As for the computing power issue I haven't a clue if adding nodes was a problem for 1998 PC's.

Unfortunately that lack of attention to detail migrated to many of the hi-res models that came afterward. Most of the models I work with have those atrocious hexagonal wheels and as in this case, jagged rudders.

Needless to say that when I upgrade these models or use them as a base for new models I always improve them.




Ok, off my high horse now.

Hi Mike & Ray,

Very well done both!!

Pete

I've sent the 24-bit version of III ZG26 to Mike and Talley-Ho. I've also revised the other 5 multiskin squadrons and sent them along to replace the original versions. Thanks to Ray "Rotton50" for his help is polishing and fixing most of the problems ths model had.

IM

Soooo much better, IM
Thx for your efforts

Yo Mike,
excellent as usual....

Yo Ray, no one appreciates the rounder wheels more than I do!
You also did an excellent job on the A-20 when you fixed the nosegear.
Thanks guys,
AO

Gentlemen, Thank You from Ray and myself.

After the 8-bit conversion comes Rays new HR Mossie. The first will be from No. 605 Squadron wearing Intruder camo....

The 8-bit version of ZG26 is now finished and being sent to Talley-Ho.





BTW, the background is from Desert Air War, and the 110's are being escorted by 8 109E's from JG 27 Akrika.

Chapeau, Mike
Almost too beautiful to be shot down.
Btw, where did you get the fonts for the code letters?
They´re absolutely authentic - DIN 1451.
Thx to Ray, too for your masterly co-production

Fran, Simmers Paint Shop http://www.simmerspaintshop.com/forums/downloads.php?do=cat&id=3 they have Tru-Type fonts for Luftwaffe, RAF, USAAF, USN etc. And, other types of markings too. Fonts here http://www.simmerspaintshop.com/forums/dlcat-military-fonts-19/

Thx, Mike
- interesting fonts, especially the "Schablonierschrift" Used for the big "Werknummern" on late-war Bf 109s.

Fran,

there is one other font set that I use but couldn't find a link so I'll send it to you via standard email.

IM