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#3403096 - 10/04/11 04:29 AM
Bulldozer October 12 at High Noon
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Latest Bulldozer rumor: To be released at 12:00 Noon Eastern time on October 12 -- 8 days. We'll see Bulldozer Oct 12 As the article mentions, now lets see the actual performance. Of course, I'll be buying one -- barring the very unforseen
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#3407692 - 10/10/11 08:02 PM
Re: Bulldozer October 12 at High Noon
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no one look for Allen Wednesday, you wont find him, he'll be scouring the earth looking for a AM3+ CPU
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#3407737 - 10/10/11 09:39 PM
Re: Bulldozer October 12 at High Noon
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PRICES LEAKED I dunno , this is probably old news to you guys i7 COMPARISON LEAK
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#3407882 - 10/11/11 04:10 AM
Re: Bulldozer October 12 at High Noon
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Thanks for the links. The price is $275. The rumor was $245. Have to see what the normal discount places are asking. Test is interesting. It was done by SiSoft itself with its own SiSoft test suite. There was a flap a few months back. Multiple companies (including AMD) pulled out of their relationship with SiSoft because SiSoft benchmarks are heavily weighted towards Intel products (i.e. not a fair test). They badmouthed SiSoft. Maybe this test (seemingly pitting a weak version of Bulldozer against a strong i7 -- did not give enough info on test setup) is a "retaliation" by SiSoft -- as Bulldozer did not fair well. Even if the test was at equal clocks, SiSoft benchmarks would favor Intel (not Intel's fault as far as I know)  Hopefully, the October 12 rumor will turn out to be true -- and we'll see where Bulldozer sits currently. I assume close to i7. Since the benchmarks are developed on Intel CPUs and then adjusted for AMD, I expect Intel to do a little better (not a lot) in benchmarks. Meanwhile on the CINEBENCH score. My Phenom II X6 (hex core) is faster than the score they post ... hmmmmm .... now THAT would be disappointing (if true, may be due to difference in how Bulldozer handles floating point -- 4 full time fp or 8 part time fp threads vs 6 full time in Phenom II X6). BTW, my Phenom II is faster than older version i7-960 (8 part time threads in i7 vs 6 full time in Phenom) in CINEBENCH (don't know the Sandy Bridge comparison). Anyhow, yes, I'll be "jumping on a Bulldozer" tomorrow -- if they are released for sale 
Edited by Allen (10/11/11 04:56 AM) Edit Reason: updated CINEBENCH remarks
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#3407956 - 10/11/11 07:19 AM
Re: Bulldozer October 12 at High Noon
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Been keeping my eye on the Bulldozer for a while now. For $275 it better tear a big piece out of the i2600k clock for clock. It's nice if it overclocks to 5ghz but if the per clock cycle performance stays behind Sandy Bridge it won't help us gamers much. If the sub $200 BD's equal or better SB they could have a winner on their hands. AMD's position for the last few years has always been playing catch up but at a better price performance equation. Why pay $1000 for 6 cores when $150 gives you 6 cores and 70% of the performance? When they charge $60 more than intells budget performance chip, the i2500k, are they not changing that value/performance position?
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#3408454 - 10/11/11 10:04 PM
Re: Bulldozer October 12 at High Noon
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Edited by jjson463rd (10/11/11 10:57 PM) Edit Reason: Added Passmark score
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#3408529 - 10/12/11 01:16 AM
Re: Bulldozer October 12 at High Noon
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A translation of a Dutch review: @ Tweakers.net
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#3408547 - 10/12/11 03:45 AM
Re: Bulldozer October 12 at High Noon
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Hmmmmm....
Looks like my Phenom II 1100T equals or exceeds Bulldozer in most things important to me (per core per clock). Not at all what I expected. I expected a 10 to 20 percent (per core per clock) improvement.
Thus, my "first impression" is that Phenom II 1100T not only gives better "bang for buck", it also gives higher absolute performance (per core per clock) in many cases. I'll keep reading and see if a better "second impression" can be found.
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#3408551 - 10/12/11 03:56 AM
Re: Bulldozer October 12 at High Noon
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Isnt it still early days and it will come into iys own with some tweaking etc?
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