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#3403900 - 10/05/11 06:45 AM
Re: Railworks 3 questions
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I think this is a rail simulator and not a scenery simulator, so it does it's job quite well. Having said that, I'm guessing the market is wide open for third-party add-ons just like scenery or airport add-ons in FSX. I'd say about 100 different "people" and maybe 300 different cars and 100 different trucks/buses and there'd be enough variation for you to barely notice it. I've started a thread over at UKTrainSims regarding changing controls... I think it is do-able though probably not adviseably, but I cannot wrap my head around their reasoning why. Any help?
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#3403918 - 10/05/11 07:28 AM
Re: Railworks 3 questions
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Well I kind of agree but surely half the sim is looking out of the window?
We mainly spend lots of money on FSX to make the scenery look better but that's a flight sim.
If the scenery was 16bit 32 colour we wouldn't play the sim no matter how good the controls are.
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#3404108 - 10/05/11 11:55 AM
Re: Railworks 3 questions
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Lol, valid points. While the 16-bit scenery example may be a bit extreme, I do get what you're saying, but look at Falcon 4... IMHO terrain looks like crap but the game, in it's entirety, makes people come back.
Anyway, any insight into the controls problem?
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#3404251 - 10/05/11 02:56 PM
Re: Railworks 3 questions
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Anyone know what the locomotive brake is used for?
Also yeah driving steam trains make no sense to me, I never really know when to adjust what. I did the tutorial but it left me with a lot of questions
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#3404268 - 10/05/11 03:23 PM
Re: Railworks 3 questions
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I assume the two brakes were there because one is engine only and the other is the whole train. Obviously asking the engine to stop 20 wagons of coal by itself is asking a bit much of it 
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#3404303 - 10/05/11 04:02 PM
Re: Railworks 3 questions
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IIRC dynamic brakes even applied brakes on the rear first so that the rear car was effectively "pulling" the rest of the train to a stop, rather than having the front engine brake and have the rest of the consist slam into it. Locomotive brakes is for the loco only. Steam engines make sense to me, it's how each control works with each other and how you were to "mix" them together that makes it interesting. To quote EinsteinEP from another thread: For steam engines, the analogy of the reverser setting your "gear" and the regulator being your "throttle" is a pretty good one. At slow speeds you want high torque, so use full reverser and vary the regulator to adjust your speed. Full regulator when stopped may result in your wheels spinning, so be patient and accelerate slowly. As your speed increases, the cylinders don't need such big gulps of steam, so back the reverser off while keeping the regulator pegged. If using the HUD, set the reverser so that your steam generation and steam usage rates match. If not, watch your speed and set the reverser for the best acceleration. Once you get up to desired cruising speed, back off the regulator and adjust the reverser to maintain a match between steam generation/usage. If you use more steam than you generate, you'll end up running out of boiler pressure the cylinders will stop driving the wheels, and you'll end up coming to a stop for a few minutes until you can build your boiler pressure back. Not fun. If you generate more steam than you use, though, you're not running as efficiently as you could be. I have not yet figured out how to managing steam usage vs. generation well without using the HUD - by the time I realize I'm using more steam than I'm generating, the boiler pressure is already on an irrecovable dive.
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#3404728 - 10/06/11 08:52 AM
Re: Railworks 3 questions
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I assume the two brakes were there because one is engine only and the other is the whole train. Obviously asking the engine to stop 20 wagons of coal by itself is asking a bit much of it  Okay but what is the the point of a locomotive brake when you can just use the train brake even when you have no cars coupled. The locomotive brake just seems so unnecessary to me which is why I'm dying to know the reason it exists.
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#3404757 - 10/06/11 09:56 AM
Re: Railworks 3 questions
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Remember the train is the whole thing and the engine is just the bit driving it.
I assume (and may easily be wrong) that 1 brake is engine only and the other is the whole train. In theory you should not be able to use the train brake when you have nothing attached to the engine!
I will be honest with you and don't even click the different brakes. I just use the brake leaver as it is and it always does the trick. I couldn't tell you if that's the train or the engine brake! I should know but I don't. It just works.
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#3404983 - 10/06/11 02:13 PM
Re: Railworks 3 questions
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Maybe but at least in any train sim I've played the train brake has worked on the locomotive even it there are no cars attached
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#3405049 - 10/06/11 03:48 PM
Re: Railworks 3 questions
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"It's not a bug, it's a feature!"
Lol, true, train brake should not work if it's just the engine... at least I think so. No real experience in trains so...
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