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#3396051 - 09/23/11 04:24 AM Re: Subatomic particles have exceeded the speed of light? [Re: FearlessFrog]
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I remembered this one (according to the interwebbs it was Einsteins favourite, if you could believe it?):

There was an old lady called Wright
who could travel much faster than light.
She departed one day
in a relative way
and returned on the previous night.
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#3396054 - 09/23/11 04:28 AM Re: Subatomic particles have exceeded the speed of light? [Re: FearlessFrog]
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I just had another few minutes and googled the train example. It was written in "New Scientist" by a quantum physicist from the university of Toronto. Search for "train" in here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnter_Nimtz

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#3396064 - 09/23/11 05:17 AM Re: Subatomic particles have exceeded the speed of light? [Re: FearlessFrog]
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Sorry Osram, my belly really hurt there for a bit when you unfurled the credentials.

Back to task; reiterating what Truzzi said and Sagan repeated, ... Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Perhaps many years down the road, a violation from this data set will be proven. Right now it remains an anomaly.
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#3396069 - 09/23/11 05:42 AM Re: Subatomic particles have exceeded the speed of light? [Re: FearlessFrog]
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Gopher, care to elaborate on your cfd training? During and after post-doc, I worked at ITER on magnetohydrodynamics and magnetic containment. Be interested in your work.
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#3396088 - 09/23/11 06:22 AM Re: Subatomic particles have exceeded the speed of light? [Re: FearlessFrog]
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An anomaly, yes, but a very much repeated one. One thing that would definitely lend credence to this is if another group (Fermilab?) could give it a few tries as well. That would reduce the possibility that there is a local physics violation field surrounding CERN.

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#3396095 - 09/23/11 06:45 AM Re: Subatomic particles have exceeded the speed of light? [Re: FearlessFrog]
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What is a local physics violation field ?

Oh, I am sure people will be dying to repeat this to the nth degree. Fermilab included.


Edited by WhistlinggDeath (09/23/11 06:52 AM)
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#3396161 - 09/23/11 09:17 AM Re: Subatomic particles have exceeded the speed of light? [Re: FearlessFrog]
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I dont have a degree in physics but I did stay at a Holiday Inn.
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#3396194 - 09/23/11 10:15 AM Re: Subatomic particles have exceeded the speed of light? [Re: FearlessFrog]
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I think there has to be some type of particles in specific conditions that had to be able to travel faster than the speed of light if not the universe wouldn't be able to expand faster than the light itself. I think that's one of the reasons why we can't see the end of the universe....Or maybe the universe is twice as old as we think it is?!.

But apparently the particles seen traveling faster than light are neutrinos which are supposed to be the remains of subatomic particles as the result of nuclear activity. Which in the end if neutrinos can travel faster than the speed of light couldn't it play an important role in the expansion of the universe?.

Just guessing.
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#3396228 - 09/23/11 11:31 AM Re: Subatomic particles have exceeded the speed of light? [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
I dont have a degree in physics but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express.


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#3396277 - 09/23/11 12:59 PM Re: Subatomic particles have exceeded the speed of light? [Re: FearlessFrog]
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Yeah, yeah, the LHC at CERN again huh! All good and well, but can that thing run my Tetris?

Guess not huh bottles
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