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#3390772 - 09/15/11 02:55 PM Re: Shooting fun. [Re: Sim]
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Interesting M1A. I don't care at all for the railworks on the bottom of the forearm, but I'd love to give it a try. The rest of the furniture looks intersting. Looks like it eliminates the weak sister of the M14/M1A; the scope mounting system. Looks like it encases the receiver in a mono-block of synthetic and uses the integral top rail for optics. I'd like to try that to see how it works for height and eye relief. Shooting is great fun. I find that the focus required allows me to go into a Zen-like relaxation and all my other problems and concerns disappear for a while. Always fun to try something new or to shoot-in a new set-up.

But the M14/M1A is an old sentimental favorite of mine. That is what I used in Sniper School and for actual work. But I prefer this look:










and it shoots like this :







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#3390844 - 09/15/11 04:39 PM Re: Shooting fun. [Re: Sim]
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Nice shots,,would be good to have you near when the zombies come. I used to shoot but I found hitting the target was preffered so I gave it up, now I just use shotguns.
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#3390867 - 09/15/11 05:11 PM Re: Shooting fun. [Re: Sim]
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Someday.... Someday I'll get to your neck of the woods, OG, and get to try that M1A/M14... biggrin

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#3390918 - 09/15/11 06:05 PM Re: Shooting fun. [Re: oldgrognard]
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Originally Posted By: Ajay
Nice , and moving targets too wink




LOL. nice photochop job. Funny stuff biggrin



Originally Posted By: vault_dweller
Nice, love that 91/30. What year is it?

Always like seeing other folk's M14's too. That's a scout, correct?



It's 1927Hex from Tula.



Originally Posted By: Paul Morrison
I shoot too. A lot of trap with my benelli supersport, but I shoot rifles too. I have a cz 858 (closest to an AK that we can get up here in Canuckistan), a robinson arms XCR, a couple of 10/22's, an M-14 and a Savage 93R17 TRR.



Nice toys.

Originally Posted By: LukeFF
Nice-looking pics. I need to get back out to the range.


Come by Vegas and we can do it together biggrin

Originally Posted By: oldgrognard
Interesting M1A. I don't care at all for the railworks on the bottom of the forearm, but I'd love to give it a try. The rest of the furniture looks intersting. Looks like it eliminates the weak sister of the M14/M1A; the scope mounting system. Looks like it encases the receiver in a mono-block of synthetic and uses the integral top rail for optics. I'd like to try that to see how it works for height and eye relief. Shooting is great fun. I find that the focus required allows me to go into a Zen-like relaxation and all my other problems and concerns disappear for a while. Always fun to try something new or to shoot-in a new set-up.

But the M14/M1A is an old sentimental favorite of mine. That is what I used in Sniper School and for actual work. But I prefer this look:







Very nice toy. At what distance did you place that nice grouping? Here's a better view of my Rambo-gun.



Edited by Sim (09/15/11 06:06 PM)

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#3390956 - 09/15/11 07:06 PM Re: Shooting fun. [Re: Sim]
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Mine's near stock, but it works! That M-14 stock, its aluminum, right. Looks like one i tried last year. Guy had a honking 12x scope too, but shooting SADF surplus ball !!
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#3390983 - 09/15/11 07:42 PM Re: Shooting fun. [Re: Sim]
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That was 11 or 12 rounds at 100 yards. Would have been nicer if I didn't pull that one shot to the right.

Does that set-up put the optics a bit high ? I see that rig doesn't have any sort of cheek piece so getting a proper spot weld must be difficult.

As Rick asked, is that stock aluminum ? My first thought was some kind of synthetic.
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#3391020 - 09/15/11 09:13 PM Re: Shooting fun. [Re: oldgrognard]
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Originally Posted By: oldgrognard
That was 11 or 12 rounds at 100 yards. Would have been nicer if I didn't pull that one shot to the right.

Does that set-up put the optics a bit high ? I see that rig doesn't have any sort of cheek piece so getting a proper spot weld must be difficult.

As Rick asked, is that stock aluminum ? My first thought was some kind of synthetic.





Optics are not high, fits and feels OK. The only issue I have with it is that entire laser dot is not exactly precise. at 200 meters it covers entire head...plus barrel is shorter than usual. But it's accurate with 40 years old German stuff.

Stuck feels synthetic as in plastic, but it's described as aluminum. More info - http://desertwarriorproducts.com/M14_Stock_Troy.html


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#3391090 - 09/15/11 11:40 PM Re: Shooting fun. [Re: Sim]
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OG, there are a few new aluminum stocks for the M-14, and one of the benefits is that you dont need to glass bed the stock for the best accuracy, it just fits super tight and doesnt flex. There's no significant advantage over a nice bedded wood stock '14, but its easier on maintenance for infantry marksmen in the field, more rails for night ops designators and bipods. If I were to be sent to Afghanistan, I'd want the aluminum, but back home here, I prefer the wood.

I dont have wood on my M-14, making do with the "passable" black synthetic...but I really want a nice GI walnut or birch stock! Or a fancy pepper laminate wood stock from Boyds.

A guy I know here makes carbon fibre stocks for the M-14, some with telestocks, some with marksmanship stocks, and they feel really nice, high quality.
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#3391254 - 09/16/11 08:03 AM Re: Shooting fun. [Re: Sim]
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Sim, what ammo are you shooting. I have found that M1A's have a different appetite for ammo. Some shoot better with light grains and some better with heavy grain. Mine does best with the 168 grain. But I haven't shot beyond 200 yards in a few years, so I;m not sure what would do better at 600+.

Your rig looks very interesting. But I really dislike bottom rails. It makes my grip feel terrible. Can't stand the notchy rail feel and if you fire 60 or more rounds it really starts to feel uncomfortable.

But that top rail is good. I don't hang much in the way of Tacticool stuff on most of my rifles so wouldn't use all the rails.

Knock on wood, but my original mount is still holding good. But eventually they all work loose. The Picatinney rails are the answer.
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#3391371 - 09/16/11 11:20 AM Re: Shooting fun. [Re: Sim]
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I'm shooting surplus stuff. Also, this toy is relatively new. I fired less than 80 rounds from it so far and previous owner who installed Rembo stuff less than 200 so I haven't had time to experience various ammo types. Here's a description on ammo type from website I used to purchase.

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308 German manufactured 7.62x51 Nato 147Gr FMJ boat tail non corrosive berdan primed brass cased ammunition. It has a 7.62x51 Nato standard bullet of 147gr FMJ. Brass case has circle cross head stamp. It has a lead core bullet and it does attract a magnet. 200 round green or clear vinyl battle packs.

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/...roducts_id/5671


I'm wondering how much that shorter barrel would make a difference vs regular size?

As for that bottom rail, it's possible to add mods for it; a handle or slanted surface to hold. Or they sell stuff that doesn't have bottom rail at all. User preference.

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