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#3403296 - 10/04/11 01:00 PM Re: OFP series dead? [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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#3403559 - 10/04/11 06:14 PM Re: OFP series dead? [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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Originally Posted By: Raw Kryptonite
What you call "rails" others call "following orders". It's more realistic than giving the player the ability to encircle the entire island of their own volition when the orders don't say to do that. Freedom of choice on a mission is not realistic. You aren't planning the mission, you're executing it.


That must be the lamest excuse that I ever read in order justify this game's limitations!

Sometimes in real life soldiers don't follow orders (for the various reasons) or sometimes order aren't followed exactly as they should. Sometimes this can have catastrophic results other times it can result on unexpected victory. Anyway, in real life a soldier has the possibility of not following orders exactly as inicially planned so yes, in the end it's much more realitic to have the possiblity "to encircle the entire island" than having something that prevents it and there's simply NO amount or argumentation that can counter this.

Of course this "limitation" issue doesn't mean that someone can or cannot enjoy the game. For example many people enjoy corridor shooter but for someone to even sugest that this "limitation" factor is realitic means that this same person must be completly out of his/hers mind, period!

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#3404692 - 10/06/11 07:47 AM Re: OFP series dead? [Re: Recluse]
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Originally Posted By: Recluse

The franchise is no doubt dead, but I think OFP:DR especially got a bad rap. I resisted OFP:RR for a long time..waiting for the price to drop sufficiently but finally gave in to do MP. Of course, now the OFP:RR multiplayers have all pretty much moved on to the NEXT BIG THING. Maybe there will be a resurgence when STEAM has it on sale for $5.00 biggrin


The main reason it got a bad rap is due to extremely bad AI. No one can deny it has very bad AI and is the main reason I never finished more than 3 missions.

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#3404717 - 10/06/11 08:32 AM Re: OFP series dead? [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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get friends and play co-op! you won't be disappointed. wink

ricnunes i understand what your saying, but also... if your part of a squad and your squad leader tells you to move to this point and provide overwatch for another fireteam in your squad... your options ain't many... your statement is true in a true, open sandbox game... but if you have played Red River, you'll know that your just 1 fireteam of a squad and thou you have limited areas to move in, thats because in Red River your suppose to keep your other fireteams in view. Try it if you haven't yet, when it's cheap... and you'll see why in Red River you can't have all that freedom.
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#3404826 - 10/06/11 11:25 AM Re: OFP series dead? [Re: Kanut]
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Originally Posted By: Kanut
Originally Posted By: Recluse

The franchise is no doubt dead, but I think OFP:DR especially got a bad rap. I resisted OFP:RR for a long time..waiting for the price to drop sufficiently but finally gave in to do MP. Of course, now the OFP:RR multiplayers have all pretty much moved on to the NEXT BIG THING. Maybe there will be a resurgence when STEAM has it on sale for $5.00 biggrin


The main reason it got a bad rap is due to extremely bad AI. No one can deny it has very bad AI and is the main reason I never finished more than 3 missions.


Actually, I found the friendly AI in OFP:DR to be pretty good. Better by far than ARMA. OF course I didn't give them much direction besides FOLLOW ME...and they did pretty well. Didn't try to order them to do specific things. That said, they would take cover, return fire, the medic would heal people..as opposed to ARMA where if you dont keep them on a tight leash they die almost immediately and frequently ignore commands.

YMMV...


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#3404903 - 10/06/11 12:48 PM Re: OFP series dead? [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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There are 3rd party maps and campaigns for OFP:DR? I didn't know that. Might be worth reinstalling it to play some of those MP coop.



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#3404924 - 10/06/11 01:17 PM Re: OFP series dead? [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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I had no problem with the AI in OFDR either...except for driving. I found that if I had one drive, they did well if told to "go there fast" but at a plodding pace they could barely navigate. On foot, they did precisely what I told them to do. I found that it was fun to play almost as an RTS, having the squad do a lot of the work while I mainly just commanded.



Originally Posted By: Magnum
... if your part of a squad and your squad leader tells you to move to this point and provide overwatch for another fireteam in your squad... your options ain't many... your statement is true in a true, open sandbox game... but if you have played Red River, you'll know that your just 1 fireteam of a squad and thou you have limited areas to move in, thats because in Red River your suppose to keep your other fireteams in view.


That's how DR was too. It's just a sign of the times. People are used to the "behind enemy lines" super-soldier or squad on their own to win the war type games. When something like this comes along, it seems faulty to most people if you aren't there to completely save the day solo. It's simply a more realistic design where you and your squad have an actual role to fill. If you don't, people other than you and your squad die. It's a different mindset, it's not Halo or COD.
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#3405191 - 10/06/11 06:41 PM Re: OFP series dead? [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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I don't understand how some of you can say it doesn't have poor AI when I saw my friendly AI team firing at a tank with their rifles from point blank range. They all ran up to the tank and started firing at it with their rifles. Pathetically bad AI, no two ways about it. But seeing as some of you like DR I got this offer for RR last night in my email so you should go buy it.

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#3405638 - 10/07/11 12:59 PM Re: OFP series dead? [Re: Kanut]
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If it drops to 5 bucks I MAY get it. I got Dragon Rising for 5 bucks and at that price the Coop campaign was somewhat worth playing.
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#3406330 - 10/08/11 04:32 PM Re: OFP series dead? [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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I have zero interest in coop so if the AI sucks I don't want it at all.

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