Coming Oct... demo out now, pretty good... not no BlackShark or A10 sim... not a sim at all with the 100's of enemies but still fun... the team on team dogfighting and base attack MP should be great.

actually, after playing more of it... i got bored and tired of all the ACTION... maybe I'll gamefly first.

JMO

It's really bad when an Ace Combat game seems *too gimmicky*.
Someone had to work REALLY hard to get the controls that screwed up on the Apache. What a wretched experience! I didn't even finish it. The fighter part was almost as bad, but mainly just not fun. Even less a flight game, it's just a string of mini-games.
Also, it doesn't look nearly as good as AC6 does.

Verdict: spend the money on AC6 and Apache Air Assault if you don't already have them. 2 great games for $60 total--new.
I'm just going to play through them again.

Ya I've been looking around for a copy of Ace Combat 6 and no luck so far......

Saw it on amazon for $20.
That flight stick set it came with originally would be nice to have, but I held out like an idiot last time I saw it new. LOL

Yes I picked up a used set of the sticks, so a copy of AC6 would be extra delicious

Nice! Should work with IL2 and Apache IIRC.
Not so much Over G, you can't get the throttle and rudder on the right spots.

ahhhh AC6... I may play a game right now

I did too. Sometimes simpler is better. I was looking forward to the MP, it's got the city attack/defend that was in AC6 that was so much fun. Maybe when it's dirt cheap, but this just wasn't anything but a headache.
I'd rather dance with the angels!

I was initially disgusted with the helicopter section. I realized my problem was trying to play it in the cockpit view. That was NOT designed for being played in cockpit. Once I got past that, and stopped trying to fly it like a helicopter, and just relaxing, it started to work much better.

Air combat feels alot different from AC6. I found it nearly impossible to fight without the Dogfight mode, not that it's a horrible thing, but at times it felt like playing afterburner. Shooting at some Flanker and for some f'kin reason 3 of his buddies decide to park in front of me... huh?! Suicidial much?!

To be honest, I just had to realize that this isn't the Ace Combat I played in 6, and then I started to enjoy it for what it is. Just my .02.