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#3387196 - 09/10/11 10:54 AM
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#3387289 - 09/10/11 02:17 PM
Re: Windows 8 fast boot time!
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Aaaannnndddd... the fast boot time is good because.... ???
It's not like Win7 is slow or anything.
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#3387298 - 09/10/11 02:36 PM
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CrunchBang Linux has a fast boot time...
One of the reasons that I use it.
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#3387341 - 09/10/11 04:21 PM
Re: Windows 8 fast boot time!
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Aaaannnndddd... the fast boot time is good because.... ???
It's not like Win7 is slow or anything. You’re right! I’m still traumatized by waiting for my old Windows Vista machine to boot up  I had to wait about 4 minutes for that thing to get everything in order. Luckily I upgraded to Windows 7 64 bit ... it boots up clean in about a minute. I was still pretty surprised at Windows 8 booting up in the sub 10 second range though. One of my favorite words is "optimization"
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#3387361 - 09/10/11 04:55 PM
Re: Windows 8 fast boot time!
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[quote=- Ice]Luckily I upgraded to Windows 7 64 bit ... it boots up clean in about a minute. Get an SSD as the primary drive - My W7 64b takes about twenty seconds. 
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#3387380 - 09/10/11 05:38 PM
Re: Windows 8 fast boot time!
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[quote=- Ice]Luckily I upgraded to Windows 7 64 bit ... it boots up clean in about a minute. Get an SSD as the primary drive - My W7 64b takes about twenty seconds. Nice! Your computer should boot up in about 5 seconds when you get W8
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#3387530 - 09/11/11 01:52 AM
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[quote=- Ice]Luckily I upgraded to Windows 7 64 bit ... it boots up clean in about a minute. Get an SSD as the primary drive - My W7 64b takes about twenty seconds. Nice! Your computer should boot up in about 5 seconds when you get W8 I could be mistaken, but I think 5 second boot is a pipe dream. A POST from the motherboard takes that long. Add a RAID setup to it and the POST takes longer again. I think the laptop in the clip uses an SSD, because from what I've understood, the hybrid technology they talked about requires an SSD, on-motherboard micro-SSD or possibly maybe a fast USB stick. (USB 3.0?) Still, any improvement will be welcomed with open arms. How about 10.000 moveable objects or more in DirectX D3D? An aircraft has at least 12 moving/detachable parts in the simplest setup.
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#3387562 - 09/11/11 04:32 AM
Re: Windows 8 fast boot time!
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No worries with Vista or Win7 on either of my computers. My old 486 with Millennium on the other hand.....
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#3387616 - 09/11/11 07:46 AM
Re: Windows 8 fast boot time!
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That laptop is a prototype for a new HP line, w/ a SSD and 16 GGB of Ram, and the "delay Start" for about 80% of the Services.
I Have Win8 Running on a Separate HDD that I use for Beta O/S's, and Its fast, it boots in 8 Seconds on my system, which is generations older than that laptop.
ps, Official Beta Testers are still under NDA, so any videos are people with Fake Win7 Transform Builds, or an Illegal Copy via Torrent.
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#3387689 - 09/11/11 10:11 AM
Re: Windows 8 fast boot time!
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CrunchBang Linux has a fast boot time...
One of the reasons that I use it. Better yet it shuts down in about 2 seconds, without asking you 10 questions first about forcing ____ to shut down, log off other users? and other crap. Just does it. 
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#3387926 - 09/11/11 04:20 PM
Re: Windows 8 fast boot time!
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[quote=Dirt_Diver]I could be mistaken, but I think 5 second boot is a pipe dream. A POST from the motherboard takes that long. Add a RAID setup to it and the POST takes longer again. I think the laptop in the clip uses an SSD, because from what I've understood, the hybrid technology they talked about requires an SSD, on-motherboard micro-SSD or possibly maybe a fast USB stick. (USB 3.0?)
Still, any improvement will be welcomed with open arms.
How about 10.000 moveable objects or more in DirectX D3D? An aircraft has at least 12 moving/detachable parts in the simplest setup. Such fast boot-up times are available right now, with the right motherboard - They use the UEFI BIOS system and boot much faster than the conventional BIOS we're used to.
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#3388130 - 09/12/11 01:01 AM
Re: Windows 8 fast boot time!
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Aaaannnndddd... the fast boot time is good because.... ???
It's not like Win7 is slow or anything. You’re right! I’m still traumatized by waiting for my old Windows Vista machine to boot up I had to wait about 4 minutes for that thing to get everything in order. Luckily I upgraded to Windows 7 64 bit ... it boots up clean in about a minute. I was still pretty surprised at Windows 8 booting up in the sub 10 second range though. One of my favorite words is "optimization" If Vista took you 4 minutes to boot something was wrong with your PC. Run Crap Cleaner or else Win 7 will start to take long to. My Vista (2.5 years of clutter) and Win 7 Pro (1 month or less) boot in the same amount of time. Perhaps Win 7 is 4-5 seconds quicker, but that is all, if that.
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#3388134 - 09/12/11 01:15 AM
Re: Windows 8 fast boot time!
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Aaaannnndddd... the fast boot time is good because.... ???
It's not like Win7 is slow or anything. You’re right! I’m still traumatized by waiting for my old Windows Vista machine to boot up I had to wait about 4 minutes for that thing to get everything in order. Luckily I upgraded to Windows 7 64 bit ... it boots up clean in about a minute. I was still pretty surprised at Windows 8 booting up in the sub 10 second range though. One of my favorite words is "optimization" If Vista took you 4 minutes to boot something was wrong with your PC. Run Crap Cleaner or else Win 7 will start to take long to. My Vista (2.5 years of clutter) and Win 7 Pro (1 month or less) boot in the same amount of time. Perhaps Win 7 is 4-5 seconds quicker, but that is all, if that. +1
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#3389564 - 09/13/11 05:57 PM
Re: Windows 8 fast boot time!
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My new Windows 7 rig boots in about 30 seconds, a bit slower than necessary believe it or not, mostly because my P8Z68 Deluxe mobo and the bloated (powerful) bios
that it uses. With a vanilla Intel board it would boot in about 20 seconds.
SSD of course.
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#3389573 - 09/13/11 06:13 PM
Re: Windows 8 fast boot time!
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My ASUS 990FX nominal UEFI Bios takes 15+ seconds to finish its Boot.
Then Windows 7 takes an additional 40+ seconds.
55 to 60 seconds overall. No big deal as I only do it once a day, most days.
Was noticeably faster before I installed scores of programs and games.
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#3389618 - 09/13/11 07:22 PM
Re: Windows 8 fast boot time!
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My Vista OS would boot in under a couple minutes but the hard drive would just keep thrashing away. Sometimes I would literally just sit there for the next minute or two monitoring the Task Manager and wonder what the hell Vista was doing.
Never had that problem with Windows 7.
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#3389842 - 09/14/11 08:21 AM
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My Win7 is 54 seconds from power switch to desktop. That includes me pressing F12 in the BIOS and selecting the boot drive, and selecting my user from the Win7 login screen and typing my password.
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#3389943 - 09/14/11 10:35 AM
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Just timed my Win 7 boot up.
1:31 from start button to desktop including typing my password and Speedfan throttling my fans back to idle speeds.
This is on an install from Oct 2009 that's had loads of stuff installed and uninstalled in that time.
I can live with that.
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#3391213 - 09/16/11 03:11 AM
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My non-UEFI desktop can boot in <5secs. It's got a motherboard feature that on shutdown reboots and takes a snapshot of the system, then powers down. On turning on the POST/Windows start is bypassed and the snapshot restored. The downside (and why I stopped using it) is that it doesn't work in a multi-user environment, which I need to keep my games, shortcuts, bookmarks etc seperate from my wife's. She doesn't play Battlefield Bad Company 2, I don't live my life through Facebook
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#3391516 - 09/16/11 12:10 PM
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Question. Will Win 8 be fast if users have antivirus and anti-malware loaded to scan the drive / memory on start-up?
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#3391745 - 09/16/11 07:30 PM
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Question. Will Win 8 be fast if users have antivirus and anti-malware loaded to scan the drive / memory on start-up? Third party antivirus software may slow it down I guess. I’m thinking MS Security Essentials might be streamlined right into the system though. MSE is great by the way. I think adlabs gave me that tip about a year ago. It’s a no brainer and saves a lot of technical talk when friends and family ask “I think I need antivirus software ... what do you use?”. Quick answer ... “Microsoft Security Essentials ... it's good and it’s free!”. BAM! They thank you and grab you a beer for your trouble! http://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/security_essentials/default.aspx
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#3392096 - 09/17/11 12:02 PM
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I was using MSE when it was called MS AntiSpyware Beta, lmao...
AVG Adds to the startup time.
My brothers new alienware, after Windows 7 re-install + all windows Updates. from Power Button to Desktop is only 12 Seconds.
Once I loaded MSOffice 2007, MSE and Some other Studio software he wanted, it jumped to 25 seconds.
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#3396512 - 09/23/11 03:24 PM
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And Lenovo were demonstrating sub 10 second boots with Win 7 last january http://www.youtube.com/user/LenovoVision#p/u/163/AeH1cHEdhas
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#3396712 - 09/24/11 12:01 AM
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Who cares about boot times? Use PC power saving mode and you hardly ever have to do a reboot anyway.
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#3396758 - 09/24/11 03:13 AM
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Quite right. Vista and above was not designed to be shut down after each session but to be put into Sleep mode (with battery save if a laptop) and it boots up in seconds. The other advantage is you can stuff open on your desktop and it's still there when you wake it up again.
Windows 8 will also take longer from cold once all your crap is installed on it!
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I just let my computer go into power saving mode like Yobbles. I only reboot when I install a new driver.
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#3396856 - 09/24/11 07:50 AM
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I just built a file server out of old parts (single core AMD 1800 CPU, 768MB SD-Ram) and installed WinXP. It gets to the desktop in about 25 seconds, which surprised me.
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#3397842 - 09/26/11 06:53 AM
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Update on Windows 8 Bootup: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-8-shutdown-startup-ssd-boot,13396.htmlWe're all running systems these days with at least a couple of cores in our CPUs, right? And we want to take advantage of those cores too. Windows 8 will do that in a way that Windows 7 doesn’t – in the turning on and off of your computer.
Windows 8 will leverage multiple cores in parallel to work together when the system is preparing itself for hibernation and resume. In previous versions of Windows, this would only matter for those who were hibernating their systems; but for Windows 8, nearly all shutdown and boot sequences will use some form of hibernation.
In previous versions of Windows, every boot and shutdown sequence would be a completely fresh start for both the kernel and user sessions. The developers of Windows 8 deem the complete shutdown and reboot of the kernel session every time as unnecessary, so Windows 8 will instead hibernate the kernel session and only shutdown the user sessions.
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#3398168 - 09/26/11 03:18 PM
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Interesting. So a hybrid trick, in a way.
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