@ Kairo - Isn't SAGG just a Russian expression for TVM (Track-via-Missile)?
@ Hpasp - for such lofted trajectory - is it similar to what the US have already invented for Nike-Hercules, and (solved in a slightly other way) combined guidance flight profile for Vega's 5V28? Was it intended to extend the missile range, and / or to improve its initial position to engage a maneuvering target (from above)?

http://www.thuleforum.com/nike.htm - already mentioned in this thread, discusses Hercules flight profiles

S-300PMU2 - congratulations! Could you ask your colleagues to borrow a copy of Altek-300 sim software to our community?

(Track-via-Missile)? -- I really don't know ?

Could you ask ...
are you ... .. do you want me to be ... .. , it's our national security men ... ask others country who stoped using it ... it's more safe ...

Do not confuse three pairs of notions:
- piracy and espionage;
- Almaz's copyright with any country's national security (dependant upon many things, software simulators being rather close to the end of such list);
- and finally, better and worse jokes . Should it be legal to get it without being a S-300 user, it would be already offered for sale at Almaz's website. Everybody likes making money. I'm confident about the future, when S-300 finally gets an Excess Defence Article status, but - will we be still alive until then?

About TVM (using layperson-to-layperson method - Hpasp, please react decisively for any blasphemy):
first, about two guidance systems we already use in SAMSIM:
1) pure command guidance: missile absolutely 'dumb', flies where fire control radar directs it to do so (Wolkhov, Neva, Krug). In order to do so, radar should accurately see when the target and missile is.
2) semi-active radar homing, when missile knows accurately just direction of the target (not distance), homing on reflected radar signal (not own, but fire control radar's - that's how Vega works). Radar does not need neither to see accurately the target nor the missile position - just keep the beam on the target, fire when in range (plus-minus hundreds of meters), and missile will find its way. Better than method 1, but the missile still can react in its only one fixed way (guidance method, e.g. half-lead) for target maneuvers. Generally works well, but... (see: target maneuvers)

Track-via-Missile combines advantages of two guidance systems. Imagine a missile having a good "nose" (semi-active radar seeker) but otherwise dumb, and under constant oversight from a ground-based "brain" (fire control radar) that tracks target and missile at the same time and can direct the missile to better react for target's behaviour. Furthermore, the missile can transmit what it "sees" (target position in angle versus missile) back to the radar - and ta-daaa, we have target info from two sources!

By the way, anyone knows the market price for S-300PMU(x) battery?

(yes, just in case that Altek-300 wouldn't be for sale as stand-alone )

Left colunm is about S-300V instead of S-300F written here
Somehow SA-10B is under it.

S-300PM is SA-10B
S-300PM2 Favorit is not fielded in Russia, only avaiable for export.

S-300PMU-1A is surplus

SAGG is the US expression describing the Russian "TWM" guidance method.

Russians simply call the two guidance method used by the S-300P as proportional or combined.
(They are similar to the Vega)

approximation: 150M$ to 170M$ ... only .

Guys, why don't you relax, watch this beautiful scene and have fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKsreHMX3xE

Yeah, always nice to see duel result like that... but - a simple Strela-10 missing and finding its way back several times (including at least one 180 deg turn to regain lock at 2:16)? I suspect it was steered by a dwarf in a micro-cockpit in the nose! (evidence: cockpit front glass clearly seen at 0:42, dwarf ejecting at 2:23 just before impact, revealing warhead behind the cockpit)

Or, wasn't it a Strela 10? (weird shape, burning time over 100 sec...)

Relaxing indeed, thx MK_PL!

Strela-10...
... the real one:
Has 5km max range, the missile has approx 550m/s speed...
... so the engagement is finished within 10s.


Relaxing...