I've got rFactor, just don't like it enough to play it. iRacing has been getting tempting again though.

its a shame it looks really nice, but Ill pass

I'll be getting it for the PC.

Ever heard of FIFA 08, 09, 10, 11 or 12? It's a new game! Of course they will charge you full price.

People don't have a problem paying full price for the next COD installement. Shake my head at you people some times.

The next COD installment (or FIFA for that matter), is not just composed of the new uniforms for the new season along with just the fixes to features that were in last years game but broken and they refused to fix them because they stupidly admitted they were too busy working on next years version already.

It would be fine if it was just some hidden or minor features, but we're talking about broken wet weather and pit-out which are key things in a F1 sim/game.

Personally I have F1-2010 for the occasional F1 hotlap or track re-familiarization activity, and I will put my hopes on rFactor2 and F1 mods for my F1 racing for 2012.

It's all about new content and as far as I can see F1 2011 doesn't have an awful lot over 2010, therefore my argument is that it is not a new game but more like an update that has added the 2011 drivers and new rules. Having purchased F1 2010 which was full of bugs, they then release one useless patch and drop all support for 2010 and start work on F1 2011. I'm still unable to play F1 2010 today because the game is still broken for me and many others. My point here is that I'd probably be happy to fork out the full price for F1 2011 if I hadn't been totally shafted with the previous release. My other point is that after spending a couple of hours today finding out as much as I can about F1 2011s content it seems to me that it's not worth forking out another £28 on as I feel it will only be a somewhat enhanced version of F1 2010 (that's if it doesn't keep crashing to desk top!). I'd go as far as to say that quite a lot of the features claimed for 2011 should have been included in the 2010 patch!

So Bull... I'm afraid I have to shake my head back at you When Codemasters decide to produce a new game that is in a playable state and doesn't contain 80% of the previous titles code then I might well give them the benefit of the doubt and go for it. Releasing a title in the same series every year means that new content and a properly finished product probably won't happen as there's not enough time for these to be implemented properly before release.

I do not like the way Codemasters work and until they have a change of attitude I'll take my business elsewhere.

It always makes me smile when I someone claim "I'll never buy xxxxx product ever ever again!!!!"

I'm sure in 12 months Pete, you'll be playing the same tune...."never ever buying it ever ever again!!!!"

Bull, check out the last paragraph of my post. There is no indication from me that I'll never buy a Codemasters product again. I'll never pre-order their games and then I'll only purchase when it's known that the content is worth the full price of admission.

I'll repeat that I'm still unable to run F1 2010 due to unfixed bugs and this is what I find unacceptable as Codemasters saw fit to ignore the fact that the game had serious problems and very quickly withdrew any support. Good luck to them if they continue with that line as I'm sure it can and has damaged their health this time around with F1 2011. I'd be pretty crazy to set my self up for that scenario again with 2011. "Once bitten...twice shy" as they say.

I like it when people take a stand about EA.
"I'll never buy from them again, boycott!
*Except Tiger Woods, gotta have my Tiger Woods. And Madden. And NHL. Can't miss those every year but that's it! Maybe Battlefield. "

I haven't bought a game from Codemasters since Race Driver 3. It was a fast-paced arcadish game that was a lot of fun to play online, and I didn't really like the direction they went with GRID.

This isn't because of any sort of moral stance, I'm just broke. That makes it a hell of a lot easier to say I'm not going to buy someone's games.

Usually the only way I get to try new stuff is borrowing my brother's copies. Since he's single he has plenty of expendable income.

All that in mind, I'm pretty thankful that rFactor has enjoyed such a long life. While I'm looking forward to what rFactor 2 will bring, I don't mind the current delay in release info. Saves my wallet just that much longer...