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#3382390 - 09/04/11 05:56 PM Stock campaign missions you've found the most difficult?
Agiel7 Offline
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Been going back through the main campaign and was just wondering what your thoughts are on some of the missions.

Probably one of the most difficult I've ran into was the Alpha Strike on the Kuznetsov. The briefing tells me that the AI-controlled SEAD flyers should have knocked out all the ship-board SAMs making this mission a relative milk-run, but of course, that's a lie. Even with a division of SEAD dedicated Superhornets I added to my own flight, I'm still beaming and dodging SA-10, SA-11, and SA-15 launches before I can get into range with my Paveways.

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#3382410 - 09/04/11 06:54 PM Re: Stock campaign missions you've found the most difficult? [Re: Agiel7]
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The one where I have to either bomb the nuke containment facilities and the convoy moving them. Gets me everytime. D:

EDIT: Also, Paveways? Did you run out of harpoons or something?


Edited by NPOSuperhornet (09/04/11 06:56 PM)

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#3382411 - 09/04/11 06:55 PM Re: Stock campaign missions you've found the most difficult? [Re: Agiel7]
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Any escort mission, especially the F14 tarps mission over Murmansk airfield. I could almost never pass that mission, an SA-10,SA-11,SA-15,SA-6 and two frigates shooting sams as well as enemy aircraft. I finally discovered if you sink the 5 frigates in the first mission, they're not replaced for the rest of the campaign. With those gone I could put 3 harms on for the SA-10,SA-15 and SA-6,1 mav G for the SA-11 command vehicle and 6 aim 120s. Now I can pass it most every time. Only problem is when one of your own F14s shoots down the tarps aircraft cuss2

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#3382419 - 09/04/11 07:13 PM Re: Stock campaign missions you've found the most difficult? [Re: Lion]
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Originally Posted By: NPOSuperhornet
The one where I have to either bomb the nuke containment facilities and the convoy moving them. Gets me everytime. D:

EDIT: Also, Paveways? Did you run out of harpoons or something?


The briefing recommended either the GBU-24s or the Walleyes. Also in my experience the naval SA-11s do a pretty good job of shooting down Harpoons, even if you set them to low-altitude skimming flight.

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#3382453 - 09/04/11 08:17 PM Re: Stock campaign missions you've found the most difficult? [Re: Agiel7]
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Intercepting the attack on the carrier by the Tu-22s. I always loose the carrier unless I stack the loadout and aircraft # in my favor.
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#3382760 - 09/05/11 08:26 AM Re: Stock campaign missions you've found the most difficult? [Re: Agiel7]
Lion Offline
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Originally Posted By: Agiel7
Originally Posted By: NPOSuperhornet
The one where I have to either bomb the nuke containment facilities and the convoy moving them. Gets me everytime. D:

EDIT: Also, Paveways? Did you run out of harpoons or something?


The briefing recommended either the GBU-24s or the Walleyes. Also in my experience the naval SA-11s do a pretty good job of shooting down Harpoons, even if you set them to low-altitude skimming flight.


The briefing also recommended 3x 480 tanks for TARPS escort missions. After that nightmare, I learned to stop taking the briefings recommendations. smile

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#3383147 - 09/05/11 03:26 PM Re: Stock campaign missions you've found the most difficult? [Re: Agiel7]
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Escorts missions are the hardest. Staying alive is not that hard, just being very selfish running in and out fast will do, but helping a careless TARPS F-14 is a different story.
Also missions from phase 3 are very difficult, no only because of those nasty Su-35 but also because I couldn't shoot SA-11 sites back (object limiter didn't loaded those SAMs, however the still could fire!)

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#3383791 - 09/06/11 10:29 AM Re: Stock campaign missions you've found the most difficult? [Re: Agiel7]
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Originally Posted By: Agiel7


The briefing recommended either the GBU-24s or the Walleyes. Also in my experience the naval SA-11s do a pretty good job of shooting down Harpoons, even if you set them to low-altitude skimming flight.


I thought that issue was fixed in TSH 4.02.

Originally, there was an error in the RCS setting for the Harpoon. It basically had the radar signature of an F/A-18 and was very prone to getting shot down by SAMs. A workaround was to use a SLAM against Naval Targets since the RCS was correctly set as much smaller, and had greater probability (though not 100%) of penetrating the anti-missile defenses.

My tactic (often resulting in untimely ejection, I have to say smile ) was to fire the Harpoon/SLAM at max range, then burner in at low level so I pretty much overtook the missile and had an envelope to launch HARM. Since the HARM travels faster than the Harpoon/SLAM and was fired somewhat ahead of it, there was a good chance to take out the radars directing counter-fire at the shipkillers before they could engage them.

Holding wingies out of range and ordering them to fire only after HARMS could do their job also allowed their Harpoons to get through. I don't know that I actually succeeded in the campaign mission with this tactic, but it worked against smaller naval groups in custom scenarios. Even better in Multiplayer where you could have a section of devoted HARM shooters with the AGM-84's carriers hanging back.


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#3383807 - 09/06/11 10:50 AM Re: Stock campaign missions you've found the most difficult? [Re: Recluse]
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Originally Posted By: Recluse
Originally Posted By: Agiel7


The briefing recommended either the GBU-24s or the Walleyes. Also in my experience the naval SA-11s do a pretty good job of shooting down Harpoons, even if you set them to low-altitude skimming flight.


I thought that issue was fixed in TSH 4.02.

Originally, there was an error in the RCS setting for the Harpoon. It basically had the radar signature of an F/A-18 and was very prone to getting shot down by SAMs. A workaround was to use a SLAM against Naval Targets since the RCS was correctly set as much smaller, and had greater probability (though not 100%) of penetrating the anti-missile defenses.

My tactic (often resulting in untimely ejection, I have to say smile ) was to fire the Harpoon/SLAM at max range, then burner in at low level so I pretty much overtook the missile and had an envelope to launch HARM. Since the HARM travels faster than the Harpoon/SLAM and was fired somewhat ahead of it, there was a good chance to take out the radars directing counter-fire at the shipkillers before they could engage them.

Holding wingies out of range and ordering them to fire only after HARMS could do their job also allowed their Harpoons to get through. I don't know that I actually succeeded in the campaign mission with this tactic, but it worked against smaller naval groups in custom scenarios. Even better in Multiplayer where you could have a section of devoted HARM shooters with the AGM-84's carriers hanging back.


I can't remember if it was 4.02 that fixed that or if it was TSHs weapon mod that saw limited release...

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#3383922 - 09/06/11 12:18 PM Re: Stock campaign missions you've found the most difficult? [Re: Agiel7]
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Nope, the Harpoon RCS error (and it is a confirmed error) has not been fixed in a public TSH release.

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