Exactly what I was thinking. Instead we just got a 2 minute scene where Nero was telling Pike his motivation for what he was doing while he was interrogating him.

Yeah, for me the Abrams Star Trek was just kind of meh. I agree that the villain was weak, but to me the overall story was pretty bland. No one seemed to really do anything interesting or clever, and the sets were largely pretty bad. There were some good performances, and there was some good action and effects, but the story kind of let the rest of it down in my opinion.

My short list of things I hate about the JJ Adams movie:

Giant water tubes in Enterprise engineering, lame.

Enterprise in general looks like a Vegas casino.

Kirk/Spock in command of a starship as raw cadets, lame.

Oh and then that command is made permanent for Kirk pretty much the next day.

Chris Pike looks like he is old enough to be Kirks grandfather.

Vulcan is destroyed. Instead of time traveling to fix it like he did for Earth in STIV Spock evidently just thinks "No big deal".

I'd say that covers it very well.

Both of these occured due to extreme and desperate circumstances. Remember that a very big portion of Starfleet was wiped out by Nero so by the end of the film there was most certainly a shortage of captains and Kirk got promoted to fill that need plus he WAS instrumental in saving Earth. So I say that him getting promoted to Captain was quite believable.

Which was lame as well, thanks for reminding me.



What was Kirks "rank", as a raw cadet he should have been the equivalent of an ensign or maybe LtJg, so he skips from O-1 / O-2 straight to O-6?

When has that ever happened in the "real world"? No matter what one did in combat the best you could expect in the real world is a Medal of Honor and a promotion of one rank, maybe 2? So he should have gotten Star Fleets highest decoration and promoted to Lt Commander at best.

1 Cpt. Pike promoted Spock to captain and Kirk to second in command. Kirk had the highest grades in starfleet history at the time but was a bit of a trouble makers so didn't make Caption. If you remember the opening Cpt Pike liked Kirk alot.

2 I agree on the water tubes.

3 Don't agree with Pine looking old.

I don't like what they did with Vulcan and the over all story. But other wise it was a good movie to me.

So how many of us have a wife/girlfriend who cried themselves silly during the montage scene where Kirk's father and mother were talking over the comms as his son was born and he was about to ram the USS Kelvin into the Narada?

Raises hand.

Yup, me too!