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#3376488 - 08/28/11 02:34 AM Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver?  
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After the last ROF patch some folks at 777 were advising to roll back to the previous version of the nvidia drivers if you were having trouble. I did have problems with my GTX 260 card and rolled back from 275.33, but now I have a new card to install the GTX 560TI
and it looks like a new driver came out in early August (280.26)

Have folks had a good track record with this new driver?

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#3376673 - 08/28/11 08:53 AM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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Absolutely no problems here..

#3376695 - 08/28/11 10:11 AM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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Using it. No problems so far.

#3376719 - 08/28/11 11:33 AM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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Please see here http://riseofflight.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=22669&start=60

I had a lot of problems with 280 beta and WHQL.

#3376761 - 08/28/11 01:46 PM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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Excellent lead Borsch....777 and Jason recommend 266.58 and that is good enough for me

The comments about disabling HD audio in Device Manager is helpful too. I was having very regular BSOD's and I do have a seperate audio card. The possibility that it is an audio conflict would not suprise me

bought the gtx 560ti with 2gig memory so hoping this takes the card of the list of things causeing crashes

#3379402 - 09/01/11 04:10 AM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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Hi Geezer, I also have a 2GB 560ti. I switched to the 280.26 drivers a few weeks ago (was running 275.33 before) and it was an improvement for me. FPS now stays more consistently at or near my limit of 60, and the flickering ground textures I was sometimes getting with the 27x.xx series have almost completely been eliminated.

I have not had trouble with BSODs in ROF so I can't comment on that issue.

Let us know how 266.58 is working for you, I never did try that version. Don't have much reason to since 280.26 seems to be working well for me, but I'm stil curious (I had been planning to try 266.58 next if 280.26 was unsat for any reason).

#3379409 - 09/01/11 04:36 AM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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Hey Speck, didn't update my post here, the 777 recommended driver doesn't exist for the GTX560 ti, so I went with the most current instead.

Runs very well looks good. I am still getting occasional .exe errors and BSOD usually in multiplayer ( occasional is at least once every time I fly, so really annoying)

I am going to start keeping a log and gathering info so I can see if I can chase it down. Can't blame it on an overloaded video card any more though. running very stable at low temp and only using 40% of the graphic memory capacity. Suppose I will post something at 777 once I have more info.

#3379490 - 09/01/11 06:45 AM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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That is frustrating, I know it's hard to track down those issues, there are so many variables at play it's hard to isolate one at a time without it turning into a very tedious and lengthy project. I had similar issues with another sim, and never did track it down (I'm content with ROF, anyhow).

It didn't help me in that case, but FWIW people often suggest PSU problems as being the cause of BSODs..

#3379503 - 09/01/11 07:09 AM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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Don't know if it helps in tracking BSOD but give a try to the free software BlueScreenView.

It analyzes automatically the BSOD dumps and tells you the most probable cause.
It really helped me out of some dodgy situations.

Just my 2 cents.
Good luck.


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#3380269 - 09/02/11 12:11 AM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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Hey Geezer,
I actually am using the 280.36 ( 3d guru ) that Sandman referenced at your place. I have an old gtx 275 and this driver runs better than any of the older drivers I have used and any of the new ones for that matter. You know me well but I am using another alias here--ha !!! I'm from the OF group--- the reluctant warrior------ ha !!!
take care and hope you find the culprit to that blue screen demon--- take care--( R---y )

#3381205 - 09/03/11 05:30 AM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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Mysterious Poster and Reluctant Warrior...thanks all, will try the BlueScreen View idea and keep my fingers crossed!

#3381320 - 09/03/11 12:30 PM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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The same developer has similar freeware for gathering application crash log files. Might be good for troubleshooting the .exe crashes. I am going to give both of these try so I can get more history on these crashes.

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/app_crash_view.html


(That's why high end gaming computer is a hobby machine and not an appliance. My best investment was a kvm switcher with a shared monitor and keyboard. I have the Corolla Family Computer and the Corvette Gaming Computer. Only have two games, Il2 and ROF on the Gaming Computer and I'm the only one that touches it. If I have to tinker with it, I can still paybills and send email on the family machine....so let the tinkering begin!)

#3381331 - 09/03/11 12:47 PM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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I wanted to post a few images from this freeware, pretty handy stuff. Certainly more sophisticated than trying to dig around the event viewer.

Here is the Application Crash software, looking at my ROF.exe errors




And here is the BlueScreenView, first screen captures the blue screen, second boils down to the affected driver and gives you data on it.



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#3381529 - 09/03/11 06:35 PM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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Man that's good software Komemiute. Sorry Geezer haven't a clue what all that gibberish means mind you.

I think I know who the the reluctant warrior is just by this "ha !!!"


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#3381679 - 09/03/11 10:40 PM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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I wouldn't look too close just yet, wait till it happens a few times and I can find a pattern

but now I have to go look up what kaaameeemuutttie means....these Old Fokkers are tricky.

#3381991 - 09/04/11 10:38 AM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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Using 280.26 drivers here Geezer mate, with no problems thus far on a GTX580. Mind you, only maybe 2 hrs or so play in ROF in the last month, haven't been doing too much simming at all recently as I'm going through 'sim burnout' which happens periodically lol. I get bored easily and a break is often a good thing....I'm sure I'll miss the virtual skies though and come back. Always do. yep

Do you usually do a 'clean install'? I find this is a good idea and can save possible grief down the line. You can do this now through the NV driver installer itself if you choose the 'custom' install option; you then get a clean install option which AFAIK does the same job as 3rd party programs like Guru3d's 'driver sweeper' etc. Note that one disadvantage of this is that it will reset your custom profiles, (perhaps there is a way to back up/save them manually...though I'm unsure). No big deal if you can remember or just note them down prior to the clean install.

For AA settings I use 'override any application setting' at 8x (forget 8xCSAA, ROF doesn't like it) paired with 2x Sparse grid supersampling using Nvidia Inspector. 'Trilinear optimisation' etc off. I find this gives excellent results, particularly if you have a 'shimmering' problem. Less of a hit than the in game 'supersampling' option too. AF I leave application controlled.

Mileage may vary of course, but it works for me.

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#3382323 - 09/04/11 10:03 PM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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Glad to be helpful.

It's funny, my wife Laptop got the same BSOD of your last screen problem and was all due to excessive overheating...

Would you mind to check?
You can use CPUID HardWare Monitor, I love it.

In case that crash was caused by overheat, it could be that too many BSOD corrupted you windows installation.
IN case put back your original OS disk and run repair. All you date SHOULD be safe.


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#3382325 - 09/04/11 10:05 PM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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BTW Komemiute is just a word I like the sound of.

But originally was IIRC the killing department (black ops) of israeli secre service.
Pretty hardcore stuff.
But as I said, I just like the sound of it.


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MigBuster

"What people like and what critics praise are rarely the same thing. 'Critic' is just another one of those unnecessary, overpaid, parasitic jobs that the human race has churned out so that clever slackers won't have to actually get a real job and possibly soil their hands."
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#3382357 - 09/04/11 11:12 PM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: Biggles07]  
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Originally Posted By: Biggles07
For AA settings I use 'override any application setting' at 8x (forget 8xCSAA, ROF doesn't like it) paired with 2x Sparse grid supersampling using Nvidia Inspector. 'Trilinear optimisation' etc off. I find this gives excellent results, particularly if you have a 'shimmering' problem. Less of a hit than the in game 'supersampling' option too. AF I leave application controlled.



I also have a GTX 580 and just tried these settings and agree they work great. I never had good results overriding the AA setting before; it always worked best to set AA via the ROF menu. Don't know if it's the new 280.26 driver or the new 1.021 update, but overriding seems to work much better now. I also can reduce SS from 4xSGSS to 2xSGSS and get the same effect. No shimmers, even on wires, and very strong FPS. Thanks for the heads up.

#3382916 - 09/05/11 06:39 PM Re: Anyone using the 280.26 Nvidia Driver? [Re: WWGeezer]  
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Regarding the driver install, yes I selected a "clean" install

Regarding possible overheat issues, yes I was running a hardware monitor and my old graphics card the GTX 260 with a factory overclock did run hot, found I was getting some black screens and recoveries at that time, started playing with the computer case left open. New card runs much cooler. Reinstall or repair of the OS is not a bad idea. Not a big fan of repair, might do a reinstall if I get annoyed enough.

Here is the application log, sorted by rof.exe..a trail of tears eh? ....the majority of them are the fault module MSCVR80.dll. Typically is happening once per mission, so you see two or three a night depending on what we are running. The new graphics card was installed in august, so the number of events has reduced with the new card. My initial research on the fault module is that it relates to
the Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 from Microsoft Corporation. It is the Microsoft C Runtime Library and is used by programs written with Microsoft Visual Studio 2005




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