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#3373697 - 08/24/11 07:12 AM Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future  
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While we wait for Dart to complete his review, here is Tom "WLINK" Cofield's opinion piece on the roll-out of IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover.

http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_499a.html


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#3373967 - 08/24/11 05:50 PM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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Can't disagree with your 7 points one iota.


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#3374019 - 08/24/11 06:58 PM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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Good article, sums up my toughts almost exactly.

#3374034 - 08/24/11 07:25 PM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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A well organised and structured piece. Hard to accuse this article of soft-pedalling.

'Fiasco' is exactly the right word i.e. the serious-comic-serious nature of it all.

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#3374036 - 08/24/11 07:28 PM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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WTF were they thinking. Failure to prepare is preparing to fail. The project leads, or those responsible for development, QA, and PR, deserve to be out of a job.

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#3374054 - 08/24/11 08:08 PM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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Good summary to this point IMO. Small shop with people whose strong suit is with coding and graphic development. Good business management is conspicuously missing.


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#3374081 - 08/24/11 08:48 PM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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cheers Pretty straightforward. No sugar coated BS.


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#3374104 - 08/24/11 09:13 PM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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Tom has another piece up today, which is a review of what we have as newly-published "alternative offering" to CoD:

Rising Sun - Phase 2 (built on the Strike fighters engine)
http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_478a.html

- It is a good read that puts things into perspective.


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#3374111 - 08/24/11 09:26 PM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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Well done Tom. Honest, straight forward and no BS as all SimHQ articles.


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#3374120 - 08/24/11 09:46 PM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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Level headed and 100% spot on. Agree completely Tom.

#3374152 - 08/24/11 10:39 PM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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Right on the money. Can't argue with it. This speaks for the community.

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#3374159 - 08/24/11 10:48 PM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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Well done, but by this time certainly not news. Like Tom, my hope is based on ten years of great IL-2 experiences. No guarantees, but the hope is there. 1C, I know you can do it.


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#3374172 - 08/24/11 11:19 PM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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Good job Tom, sums it up rather nicely.

But the real question is why did the release happen this way?

Jason (of 777) talked about his meet with Ilya in the RoF forum when he visited the RoF devs.
This occurred just before the Euro release of CLoD. Could you imagine that meet? One guy riding
high on a successful product, the other...must have been forced to do something he didn't want.

#3374173 - 08/24/11 11:19 PM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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The article imo is realistic and fair, it is just about 2 weeks too early!, so that the first patch, that isnt a shot from the hip, isn't reflected by it.

#3374308 - 08/25/11 04:26 AM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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Someone send Tom "WKLINK" Cofield some cheese.

#3374309 - 08/25/11 04:30 AM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: robtek]  
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Originally Posted By: robtek
The article imo is realistic and fair, it is just about 2 weeks too early!, so that the first patch, that isnt a shot from the hip, isn't reflected by it.


IF the patch is all that they say it is then I will be more than happy to put out another article. I don't have anything against the game or 1C, Lord knows I have been one of their biggest fans since I first saw the preview of IL2 10 years ago.

As for the other post, I don't drink.....whine......


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#3374368 - 08/25/11 06:44 AM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]  
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I agree completely. Good articel. You hit the point Tom!

#3374377 - 08/25/11 06:58 AM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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I agree 100%

sadly something went very very wrong some time ago with the Ciffs project management

#3374389 - 08/25/11 07:35 AM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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From the article:

Quote:
Look, I do not really doubt that 1C, Ilya or Oleg really wanted to release CoD in a relatively messed up state


Do you really want to say that 1C, Ilya and Oled wanted to release a buggy game? As I'm no native speaker, I'm not quite sure about this.

#3374402 - 08/25/11 08:37 AM Re: Commentary: IL-2 Sturmovik: Reflections on the Past and Questions for the Future [Re: citizen guod]  
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Hi All

I have to agree with this article. Balanced and makes many valid points which I think most (apart from the swivel-eyed apologistas) would agree with.

It's a real shame that an article like this could be written on a subject that we are all so pationate about. The concept of this sim was brilliant. The implementaion - less so.

Anyway - well done Tom and many thanks for this.

Regards

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