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#3370205 - 08/18/11 11:56 PM Re: Switching win7 to SSD [Re: Ajay]
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Ah ok , cheers.
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#3370962 - 08/19/11 11:19 PM Re: Switching win7 to SSD [Re: Ajay]
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Well i got talked out of buying an ssd by both of the pc shops i get all of my gear at.Actually talked out of something by a salesman smile They said the fail rate of all of the brands they sell OCZ ,Kingston, Corsair , Intel etc was high enough that they had a backlog of failed ssd's to be rtb'd .Failures from 2 to 4 months being fairly common but if it failed within the week (if i was lucky biggrin he said ) he would swap it straight out over the counter and would not have to send it back to the manufacturer.Both stores said they would not recommend them atm. I took their advice.Not often someone who sells a product advises you not to buy.

Waaaaaaa. I was all set to do my changeover this weekend too.

Sure enough there will be enough out there that have been using them for ages with no problems but i dont want the muck around if they are not really sorted properly yet.Most of the sites i looked at for reviews stated the failure rate was indeed higher than hdd's but they do not have the long term data that hard drives obviously have to do a real good comparison, many sites also stated to take manufacturer's ssd claims with a grain of salt.This included Toms Hardware so i guess i will wait for a bit smile Prices should come down too which will be a good thing.
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#3370994 - 08/20/11 12:28 AM Re: Switching win7 to SSD [Re: Ajay]
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Ajay,

I think you should reconsider. Check out the images below on the failure rate comparison. SSD's are no different in the failure department and a little better in some cases. If you look at Intels numbers, especially the second time frame, they had a return rate of just 0.3%! That has to be the lowest failure rate in the history of computer components. Intel had an unlucky hiccup recently with their 320 series glitch but a firmware update is going to fix that but I would stay away from them regardless for now. I just picked up an Intel series 510 120gb drive for boot and am using my 1tb Caviar Black for programs. This hiccup is a shame because its going to kick their numbers up a bit...without this glitch, they were on a record setting pace for non-failure rates.






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#3371076 - 08/20/11 07:07 AM Re: Switching win7 to SSD [Re: Ajay]
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I'm with Force10 on this, Ajay. I've been running a Crucial RealSSD C300 64 since early September 2010 in my game system and a Kingston SSDNow V 64GB since early December '09 (first in laptop, then in HTPC).

For one thing, you don't know how badly the people that returned theirs have been treating them (due to lack of knowledge). They might have cheap-ass power supplies that hardly filter ripples and spikes from the power line or have systems that get very hot.

I'm itching to get one of the newer ones, but I'll have to restrain myself till I build a new system with SATA-III / SATA-600 controller. smile If I were buying, as a gamer I'd probably get two 120GB ones (in RAID0) from either the Crucial M4, Kingston HyperX, ADATA S511, Corsair ForceGT, Patriot Inferno or OCZ Vertex3, in that order. That's based on performance in gaming first, price second per single drive.

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#3371348 - 08/20/11 06:30 PM Re: Switching win7 to SSD [Re: Ajay]
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I know at least five SSDs in systems at work or my own that have been going for 12 months+ without issues. I have not had an SSD fail in my personal area of people and computers I work with.

It would be interesting what kind of failures these shops are seeing. Overstepped Write Cycle limits? Failed Controller? The former can easily happen if someone was to use an SSD for video editing or a database server. Failed Controllers and "bricked" SSDs have happened in the early days due to firmware glitches, but I've not seen considerable reports on that ever since.

For me long term wear always has been the bigger worry, but that's why I keep clean total disk image backups.

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#3371638 - 08/21/11 08:43 AM Re: Switching win7 to SSD [Re: Ajay]
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Ajay,

my SSD works for 6 months now. My Samsung F3 HDD however quit after three weeks, sadly dragging down my 7 install with it (it`s on the SSD, but I couldn`t get any internet access when the HDD died). Surely I hadn`t established a backup at that time too, so I head to re-install everything from scratch. PITA with a big FSX install.

New storage is always interesting....
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#3372005 - 08/21/11 09:10 PM Re: Switching win7 to SSD [Re: Ajay]
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Thanks for the info, i dont know what sort of failures the returned ssd's had , i was just surprised when both shops actually 'sold' me out of handing over money.Does not happen much lol, so i thought, well these are the guys who are in the know.The two stores i get all of my bits from are probably the best i have found in Brissy regards price , availability and if the right guy is there , knowledge.

One bummer is i only have sata 2 on my board (Gigabyte h55m ud2h)so only 3gbs and its an 1156 board so i would need to upgrade (1155) to get sata @ 6gbs or get a sata upgrade card to get the benefit of the 6gbs.Upgrade of board then means new cpu as well..arggghh money! Should not have been a scab when i purchased my new board earlier in the year, well was not really a scab as my old board had died and i could not afford much at the time as i was buying ram,card, cpu and win7 as well.Damn budgets!

I might try again this weekend and see if can outwit him and force him make a sale , I will have to get the 6gbs option and then upgrade the rest around it..ooooh now, how do i swing this all this past the missus smile

Edit: on the plus side i just scored 2 by 24" monitors that were floated off in the flood of January , we cleaned them all up (had six running at a workstation with all of ouir jobs for the day across the screens in a 2 by 3 setup) and they have been working fine for the last 2 months.The boss has updated that system and i put my hand up for the monitors.Scored three all up and gave one to a mate who only had a 19" at home.So i will need to upgrade if i want to use them anyway.Looks like an sli capable board will be the go down the track but thats looking a bit far ahead atm.Especially when i looked at the prices for the 580 cards.Holy.

Would love a triple screen setup though.Maybe they will have CloD optimised by the time i have the money smile


Edited by Ajay (08/21/11 09:30 PM)
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#3372013 - 08/21/11 09:35 PM Re: Switching win7 to SSD [Re: Ajay]
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My Intel 510 is Sata 3 but I bought it anyway even though I only have Sata 2. Sata 3 to 2 is completley backwards compatible and it just runs at the Sata 2 speed. I can enjoy it for now and upgrade to Sata 3 later on.
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#3372023 - 08/21/11 09:59 PM Re: Switching win7 to SSD [Re: Ajay]
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Yeh that was my thinking.I really should have looked into mobo's a little bit more when mine died.
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#3372095 - 08/22/11 01:41 AM Re: Switching win7 to SSD [Re: Ajay]
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SSD doing 300 megabyte per second tops, SATA2 is fine.

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