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#3360241 - 08/06/11 04:54 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: vintorez]
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Originally Posted By: vintorez
AFAIK, there was a little smile difference between Dvina's and Volkhov's optical systems. Volkhow employed a TV camera, while Dvina used... two pairs of eyes (occupators of the 'doghouse') probably supplemented by some simple optics (scopes, binoculars? - I wonder, in order to see a plane from 20 km away, one should need huge magnification... Hpasp, how was the real range of optical tracking in Dvina, assuming perfect weather conditions?)


They had a fixed TZK telescope, and two wheels, that were connected to the FCO's elevation/azimuth wheel.
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#3360243 - 08/06/11 04:58 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Kairo]
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Originally Posted By: Kairo


you know, some answers seems like illogic for me ..... because in the ground it have no sense !

then with deep observing ...... EUREKA !!! .....I found it ..... we are not using the same keyboard mapping,

I think you are using an QWERTY keyboard, and I'm using an AZERTY one!

with QWERTY keyboard it's right and logic.
with AZERTY one, your answers seems like illogic at all, and not efficient for tactical use mode,


Actually, we Hungarians has also a bit different keyboard layout QWERTZ, thus the Z/Y has common use.
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#3360246 - 08/06/11 05:12 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: MK_PL]
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Originally Posted By: MK_PL
You want more questions? You sure? Brave man! smile

Here are some old ones:

In the Tallinn scenario, long after the SR-71 has crashed, it still can be seen on the Tall King radar screen.
A bug?


I checked it, and when the SR71 crashes, it disappears.
Could you be more specific? Screen-shots? ETC?

ps: I was able to angle track it at around 300km out (no range, no Nonius).
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#3360247 - 08/06/11 05:48 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Kairo]
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Originally Posted By: Kairo
I have a question not answered yet!, (you was in holidays!) about a maps in SAM sim
if it isn't "Secret Defence"!


Adding new maps were easy, until the Digital Elevation Mesh was introduced...
... now it is quite a complex process...
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#3360248 - 08/06/11 05:54 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: MK_PL]
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Originally Posted By: MK_PL
Gentlemen, please have a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1mu2k6M-es

Now you can laugh at me smile
Comments will be welcome.


Can I add it to the SAMSIM website?
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#3360265 - 08/06/11 06:40 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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I'll try to replicate the bug in the afternoon.

Originally Posted By: Hpasp

I checked it, and when the SR71 crashes, it disappears.
Could you be more specific? Screen-shots? ETC?



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#3360267 - 08/06/11 06:44 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Why not, if you think it can be useful. However, it is not 'perfect', it can only give sim users a general idea how to do it.

I was also recording a commentary but due to some problems with settings (I have two sound cards) it hasn't been recorded.
I will probably record another video when I have time.

Originally Posted By: Hpasp

Can I add it to the SAMSIM website?

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#3360276 - 08/06/11 07:07 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: MK_PL]
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Originally Posted By: MK_PL
Hpasp, are you sure?
We'll keep asking... for time compression, 3D graphics, S-300... smile
Ok just kidding.

Originally Posted By: Hpasp

Just keep asking... thumbsup


Time compression will be in the next minor release.
3D graphic ... lets see.
S-300 ... not yet.

Ok just kidding.
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While Fighter Pilots made movies, SAM Officers made History.
(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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#3360281 - 08/06/11 07:40 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: MK_PL]
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Originally Posted By: MK_PL
Haven't checked if it's like that in the sim, but (from Wikipedia):

'Once the aircraft had dropped their bombs, they were to execute what SAC termed "post-target turns" (PTT) to the west. These turns had two unfortunate consequences for the bombers: the B-52s would be turning into a strong headwind, slowing their ground speed by 100 knots (185 km/h) and prolonging their stay in the target area and the PTT would point the emitter antennas of their EW systems away from the radars they were attempting to jam, degrading the effectiveness of the cells, as well as showing the largest radar cross-section to the missile guidance radars.'

On 19th December, if I'm not mistaken, they turn E.


PTT is performed by the B52 targets of the Hanoi scenario of the SIM.
The reason of the B52 kills were rather in the use of the T/T method, not related to the PTT.

The B52's were hit well before the PTT, not while performing it. (it is much easier to track a straight flying target, than a turning one)
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

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While Fighter Pilots made movies, SAM Officers made History.
(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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#3360282 - 08/06/11 07:42 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: MK_PL]
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Originally Posted By: MK_PL
Why not, if you think it can be useful. However, it is not 'perfect', it can only give sim users a general idea how to do it.

I was also recording a commentary but due to some problems with settings (I have two sound cards) it hasn't been recorded.
I will probably record another video when I have time.

Originally Posted By: Hpasp

Can I add it to the SAMSIM website?


Any tutorial video is welcomed.
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

While Fighter Pilots made movies, SAM Officers made History.
(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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