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#3355210 - 07/30/11 09:19 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
5. The reason I only use 1 missile for this engagement is simple; no US aircraft has ever been fired on by an S-200 before. Therefore, the SR-71 will never even know it's been engaged and thus won't be maneuvering/evading

Launching a Vega missile is not detectable by RWR's. thumbsup
The only time US NAVY faced the Libyan S-200, they sent forward the Ticonderoga ships to detect the huge missile while flying.
(they did it successfully)


Oh, I meant that since no US aircraft had ever been shot at by an S-200 they wouldn't know they'd need an AWACS or something with a very powerful radar to spot the launch. I'm sure at that time they assumed it would spike RWR just as all previous Russian SAMs did.

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#3355219 - 07/30/11 09:38 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: MK_PL]
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Originally Posted By: MK_PL
Maybe a training facility.
Or a playground in your courtyard smile


just waiting for the Guru opinion, then I will tell you !
I promise!

Hum Master ? some idea about this transformer ?"


Edited by Kairo (07/30/11 09:41 AM)
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#3355251 - 07/30/11 10:31 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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#3355575 - 07/30/11 07:02 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Edited by Kairo (07/30/11 08:02 PM)
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#3355617 - 07/30/11 08:44 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Even neva is present

http://www.det6.com/pic2.htm


Volhov model


Dvina model




Edited by Kairo (07/30/11 08:45 PM)
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#3355716 - 07/31/11 12:03 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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I just love looking at all these photos and the great info here. thumbsup

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#3355830 - 07/31/11 08:50 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: MK_PL]
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Originally Posted By: MK_PL
I have an impression that in the sim, jamming aircraft generally do not change their altitude.
Is it so? Is it a merciful feature so that we could shoot them down? smile


Nope.

The SR71 were simply not able to change its altitude quickly, otherwise it would stall.
The B52 pilots over Hanoi were threatened with court-martial if they break the formation.

F4 will change altitude at their will...
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#3355835 - 07/31/11 09:04 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Kairo]
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Originally Posted By: Kairo
Hi to all!

How can guess what is this???


I guess for a Weasel training aid, probable a Tolicha peak (Nevada [Area-51])?
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#3355900 - 07/31/11 11:14 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

The B52 pilots over Hanoi were threatened with court-martial if they break the formation..


Wow, that's pretty dumb. Altho, I don't imagine a B-52 would be able to maneuver very well. I'm defiantly looking forward to seeing what kind of tricks the SA-5 has to deal with SEAD.

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#3355906 - 07/31/11 11:22 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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The reason for that was for defensive equipment and rear gun coverage. If aircraft left the formation it changed the coverage of their ECM gear and left aircraft more vulnerable, and also left holes in their gun coverage for the rear guns.

Miao, Cat
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