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#3332708 - 07/01/11 01:33 PM
Re: Tone while turning?
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"Over-G" I think.
You are pulling too hard of a turn and going over the G-Limit of your plane at that particular moment (maxload/speed etc).
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#3332713 - 07/01/11 01:44 PM
Re: Tone while turning?
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What is that tone (both continuous and intermittent) when you're performing a turning maneuver? Angle-of-Attack tone.
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#3332727 - 07/01/11 02:14 PM
Re: Tone while turning?
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Mmm, this tone rather kicks in fast in my opinion. I'm turning with this tone all the time and never stall (so far). Steady tone or Choppy tone? Steady tone is not indicative of a stall - just means you're bleeding unnecessary energy. Pull back further till you get the choppy tone, pull a wee bit more and see what happens 
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#3332750 - 07/01/11 02:44 PM
Re: Tone while turning?
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Mmm, this tone rather kicks in fast in my opinion. I'm turning with this tone all the time and never stall (so far). Pull the nose down, raise the flaps and stow the brakes!  What's your airspeed in these turns? Wrecking Crew 
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#3332814 - 07/01/11 04:04 PM
Re: Tone while turning?
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It doesn't kick in early at all. Read the manual.
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#3332839 - 07/01/11 04:43 PM
Re: Tone while turning?
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"When the aircraft is within 2 angle of attack units of a stall, a steady warning tone is sounded. When the aircraft is 1 angle of attack unit or less of entering a stall, the tone will become chopped. When you hear the chopped tone, it is best to reduce angle of attack immediately.
From the Stall Warning Control panel, you may control the volume of these two tones. The dial labeled STALL controls the volume of the chopped tone and the PEAK PRFM dial controls the volume of the steady tone. Only the PEAK PRFM tone can be reduced to zero though."
Stall speed is 120. I get the continuous tone at 200 mph when turning at a fast - but still manageable - rate.
Anyway, since there is a volume knob that can be turned to zero, I'm okay with it. :p
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#3332875 - 07/01/11 05:18 PM
Re: Tone while turning?
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What does speed have to do with it? The stall horns tell you when you're max-performing your aircraft. The chopped tone tells you when you're riding a stall, and in fact you shouldn't ride it because you can already be in a stall and not know it (instruments are not that accurate or have delays). If you're turning fast at 200 and getting the steady tone, you know you have EXACTLY the best performance out of your wings for that turn. So you ride the steady tone and you know you're max-performing the wing. Speed has nothing to do with it ... as Viper said. Stall speed is 120. I get the continuous tone at 200 mph when turning at a fast - but still manageable - rate.
Anyway, since there is a volume knob that can be turned to zero, I'm okay with it. :p
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#3332917 - 07/01/11 06:15 PM
Re: Tone while turning?
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My point was that the steady tone annoys me. I get why it is there now, but I believe I can do without it. So I happily tuned it down and I'm feeling much better now :p But seriously, thanks for the clarifications tho. What does speed have to do with it? The stall horns tell you when you're max-performing your aircraft. The chopped tone tells you when you're riding a stall, and in fact you shouldn't ride it because you can already be in a stall and not know it (instruments are not that accurate or have delays). If you're turning fast at 200 and getting the steady tone, you know you have EXACTLY the best performance out of your wings for that turn. So you ride the steady tone and you know you're max-performing the wing. Speed has nothing to do with it ... as Viper said. Stall speed is 120. I get the continuous tone at 200 mph when turning at a fast - but still manageable - rate.
Anyway, since there is a volume knob that can be turned to zero, I'm okay with it. :p
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#3332931 - 07/01/11 06:39 PM
Re: Tone while turning?
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My point was that the steady tone annoys me. I get why it is there now, but I believe I can do without it. So I happily tuned it down and I'm feeling much better now :p
But seriously, thanks for the clarifications tho.
Anyway, since there is a volume knob that can be turned to zero, I'm okay with it. :p [/quote] [/quote] Blasphemy! Burn him...  Just kidding of course. Whatever makes you have fun with the sim. 
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#3333313 - 07/02/11 09:26 AM
Re: Tone while turning?
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My point was that the steady tone annoys me. I get why it is there now, but I believe I can do without it. So I happily tuned it down and I'm feeling much better now :p
Most combat helicopters have a Master Caution tone that seems to work similar in nature. The tone generated is not a progressive tone, but the Master Caution can be silenced. Can this be done with the tone he is hearing in the A-10? .
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#3333359 - 07/02/11 11:21 AM
Re: Tone while turning?
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As I mentioned before, the volume of the steady tone can be set to zero. It is not a Master Caution-alike warning that you can click-silence tho. Would be inefficient since you get that tone every time you make a turn.
Most combat helicopters have a Master Caution tone that seems to work similar in nature. The tone generated is not a progressive tone, but the Master Caution can be silenced. Can this be done with the tone he is hearing in the A-10?
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#3333365 - 07/02/11 11:37 AM
Re: Tone while turning?
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...since you get that tone every time you make a turn.
Not if you fly the Hog "right".  When I started playing the sim the damn thing was bleeping all the time, too. Now I basically only hear the tone when I'm performing drastic evasive actions.
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#3333371 - 07/02/11 11:53 AM
Re: Tone while turning?
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Probably I've only got started with this sim. Bit of a change when coming from the F16. ...since you get that tone every time you make a turn.
Not if you fly the Hog "right". When I started playing the sim the damn thing was bleeping all the time, too. Now I basically only hear the tone when I'm performing drastic evasive actions.
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#3334428 - 07/04/11 11:28 AM
Re: Tone while turning?
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where can u turn down aoa warning?
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Exodus
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