I have the Retro Cars and the Alps track loaded on the ADC server over the weekend.

Open Server: ADC @ speedgeezers.net

First run on the track for me in the CSL: 3:24.780
CSL: 3:17.344 3:15.372
2002:

I went back and did some laps using "retro" authentic heel-toe and h-shifter no auto clutch, instead of left foot braking, and here are my updated times:

Kludger:
BMW CSL: 3:18:893 LFB
BMW CSL: 3:20.764 HnT + H-Shift

BMW 2002: 3:33:576 LFB
BMW 2002: 3:37.756 HnT + H-Shift

Immersion is much better, but it definitely costs me a few seconds, I sweat more and make more mistakes, great fun though, need more practice...

I should give right foot braking a try again. It would be fun if you couldn't shift without clutch. The way I do it now is without auto clutch, but also without using the clutch during shifting. I only use the clutch for starts and when I spin.

I think that might actually be realistic, from what I understand some sports car transmissions can be shifted without using the clutch as long as you are good at blipping and matching revs so it doesn't grind when it syncs and engages... I actually recall doing that accidentally in my motorcycle when I was in a panic situation and being surprised that it worked...

The game must be doing some sort of modeling for that as I've had some missed shifts which I thought were caused by my clutch timing being off but maybe it was something else.

Right foot braking feels normal in a real car, but in sim racing definitely takes some concentration after all these years of LFB and especially all the sims which reward using both gas and brake at the same time to keep the car steady at the limit of traction in corners (iRacing, RBR etc.), pretty rewarding though since that's what I would need to do to drive any decent sport car fast on a real track, maybe someday I can try heelntoe in real life, all out family cars are automatics right now.

Wow.. im a fair bit off the pace.. no matter.

BMW CSL: 3.29.351 3.23.420
BMW 2002: 3.38.322

BMW 2002: 3:30,2xx

thanks to Rob's setup posted in online files :-)

still 6 secs off from the master