'Is very nice!'..

Wonderful work.

Would these show up in the career mode if Jasta 11 is flying?

Awesome skins.. a joy just to look at, cant wait to fly with `m

Now we just need historical pilots in the Jastas flying those skins, or us being allowed to apply skins to our wingmen.

+1 for the addition of aces and custom skins to virual squadmates in Career mode.
What a remarkable work by Graf, indeed!

It is planned for the campaign

Top work there Graf!

Hello,

Looking good! If you could get rid of the (OAW) nose footstep then we’d be really close to mimicking the Johannisthal-built Albatros D.III that is missing from this sim. Maybe someday we'll have one... (BTW, any way you can center the radiator on those planes that had it?)

You asked for comments if inconsistencies were found so I’ll present a few here for the sake of constructive criticism/historical accuracy (as near as we can get with skinning the wrong type of plane). Planes are identified by order of their screenshots, with "first" being at the top:

First plane with white nose must be Allmenröder’s. Its number was 629/17 (I think you have that but it's too hard to see in that screenshot). Had a white nose, white spinner, and white elevator (according to a description given by Lothar von Richthofen). The latter is missing from that skin.

Second plane is MvR’s D.III. Looks good. It is my contention that, based on photographs, the lower wings were overpainted red by April 1917, but when this occurred I do not know. There was a patch just forward of the fuselage cross that is believed to have been repair for bullet damage; it is not visible on this skin.

Fourth plane is Kurt Wolff’s. Serial number was 632/17 and it was well visible through the translucent red overpainting.

Sixth plane is Georg Simon’s 2015/16. The wing camo on that plane, on the upper wing, from left to right, was pale green\venetian red\olive green. Port lower wing is unknown. Starboard lower wing was (according to the RFC capture report) common crimson oxide\medium bronze green, but likely painted the same as the upper wing and there is a difference due to the wings’ different exposures to ultraviolet light. On that skin there is no Venetian red on the upper wing.

Seventh plane, with the wavy red line, I have recently discovered, was actually a Jasta 4 machine. I know, it’s in the April 1917 lineup photo at Roucourt (and, it IS Roucourt; this has been irrefutably proven via photographs) but that photo consists of Jasta 4 and 11 machines. The serial number was censored but in my estimation it was not 1949/16; once can discern this upon careful photographic study. What it IS, however, I do not know. I had determined it was 2016/16 but that was a Jasta 11 machine and thus incorrect (and the number IS known, btw, but not by me). In either case, I’ve not found a single shred of evidence that it was flown by Krefft—which I’m not saying you have claimed but mention this because it is so often bandied about—which, as I now know, would not have happened since he was in Jasta 11 and this plane was a Jasta 4 machine. An attractive skin, though! If you are going to include it regardless of being a J4 machine then it needs the weights table under the red wavy line, in the usual position. EDIT: Forgot to mention that the fuselage had a cross on the white band, along the spine of the plane, although smaller than the crosses on the sides. I do not know if there was a cross underneath.

Eighth plane. That looks like a profile in the book “Richthofen’s Eleven.” Attributed to Festner. I’ve never seen any photographic proof or description of his plane looking like that; there could be some, I’ve just never seen them. However, the photos I have of his plane clearly show it was not red up to the cockpit. In fact, I can’t discern any red at all. Unfortunately, you can only see back to a little less than halfway down the fuselage. It's always possible he flew another plane that looked like this; if there is a photo of it anywhere, I'd love to see it!

Twelfth plane. Schaefer’s. He flew two planes that appeared this way (unpainted wood/black). One was D.2062/16. This number is clearly visible on the vertical stabilizer; the black was painted around it. The nose on that machine was not painted red and the wheel covers were painted pale blue, and the Albatros logo was not painted, a la MvR's machine. The port fuselage had a weights table and rigging guide in the usual positions. The other DIII appeared similarly but I cannot discern the serial number, although it too was painted around (which leaves a rectangle around the number which constrasts strikingly with the rest of the black tail). Its wheels were dark and its nose cowl and spinner were overpainted a dark color, which very well could have been red.

I don’t know if it’s too late to comment on these planes, but there you go. PM me if you’d like some good shots of the points in question. Regardless, again, great job!

Outstanding work as always Graf!

Two questions:

Do I have to select "Mods" to use the new skins

If I select "Mods" does ROF no longer keep track of my score?

Thanks!

JFM,

"First plane with white nose must be Allmenröder’s. Its number was 629/17 (I think you have that but it's too hard to see in that screenshot). Had a white nose, white spinner, and white elevator (according to a description given by Lothar von Richthofen). The latter is missing from that skin."

I agree with you as I did have the elevator white as well until I read DSA's opinion on it. According to him there was no white on the elevator. I found this strange but went with his opinion on the subject.

"Second plane is MvR’s D.III. Looks good. It is my contention that, based on photographs, the lower wings were overpainted red by April 1917, but when this occurred I do not know. There was a patch just forward of the fuselage cross that is believed to have been repair for bullet damage; it is not visible on this skin."

Thanks! I forgot about the bullet patch! I'll edit ASAP.

"Sixth plane is Georg Simon’s 2015/16. The wing camo on that plane, on the upper wing, from left to right, was pale green\venetian red\olive green. Port lower wing is unknown. Starboard lower wing was (according to the RFC capture report) common crimson oxide\medium bronze green, but likely painted the same as the upper wing and there is a difference due to the wings’ different exposures to ultraviolet light. On that skin there is no Venetian red on the upper wing."

Will change ASAP.

"Seventh plane, with the wavy red line, I have recently discovered, was actually a Jasta 4 machine. I know, it’s in the April 1917 lineup photo at Roucourt (and, it IS Roucourt; this has been irrefutably proven via photographs) but that photo consists of Jasta 4 and 11 machines. The serial number was censored but in my estimation it was not 1949/16; once can discern this upon careful photographic study. What it IS, however, I do not know. I had determined it was 2016/16 but that was a Jasta 11 machine and thus incorrect (and the number IS known, btw, but not by me). In either case, I’ve not found a single shred of evidence that it was flown by Krefft—which I’m not saying you have claimed but mention this because it is so often bandied about—which, as I now know, would not have happened since he was in Jasta 11 and this plane was a Jasta 4 machine. An attractive skin, though! If you are going to include it regardless of being a J4 machine then it needs the weights table under the red wavy line, in the usual position. EDIT: Forgot to mention that the fuselage had a cross on the white band, along the spine of the plane, although smaller than the crosses on the sides. I do not know if there was a cross underneath."

I've heard of this discussion and wasn't sure what the exact answer was. Seems every day it changes! Sad too as I really love this scheme tho changing the red to black ain't all that bad either! What does this cross on the spine look like?

"Eighth plane. That looks like a profile in the book “Richthofen’s Eleven.” Attributed to Festner. I’ve never seen any photographic proof or description of his plane looking like that; there could be some, I’ve just never seen them. However, the photos I have of his plane clearly show it was not red up to the cockpit. In fact, I can’t discern any red at all. Unfortunately, you can only see back to a little less than halfway down the fuselage. It's always possible he flew another plane that looked like this; if there is a photo of it anywhere, I'd love to see it!"

So would I! I've based this skin off profiles and have read it is uncertain as to the specific markings Festner had.


"Twelfth plane. Schaefer’s. He flew two planes that appeared this way (unpainted wood/black). One was D.2062/16. This number is clearly visible on the vertical stabilizer; the black was painted around it. The nose on that machine was not painted red and the wheel covers were painted pale blue, and the Albatros logo was not painted, a la MvR's machine. The port fuselage had a weights table and rigging guide in the usual positions. The other DIII appeared similarly but I cannot discern the serial number, although it too was painted around (which leaves a rectangle around the number which constrasts strikingly with the rest of the black tail). Its wheels were dark and its nose cowl and spinner were overpainted a dark color, which very well could have been red."

According to DSA he did fly two a/c with these markings. Tho he did not go into details about the serial number being painted around I would love to see photos of this bird.

Thanks for the clarification! I'll make all necessary changes and post the screens when finished. I would love to see all photos you have on Jasta 11. That is if you don't mind.

BTW...love your work on MvR. Wish you might find the time to follow it up with work on other German WW1 aces. I know you'd have a customer here!