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#3318716 - 06/14/11 01:50 PM Re: B-17 "Liberty Belle" Down [Re: Rook_336th]
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Originally Posted By: Rook_336th
Well, it's been a hell of a day to say the least. There are definitely days where you think you should have just gone back to bed. I can't comment on details really (don't know much more than what's in the news postings anyway) - but I talked with Ray briefly and apparently he had just left the airport by a few minutes in the Liberty Foundation's P-40 on their way to their next stop in Indiana. He turned around when the incident occurred and has been dealing with this all day - he's in emergency mode right now, so I just more or less expressed my sympathy and let him get back to it.

The death of this fine lady comes as a shock and I feel sad for the loss but I feel a bit philosophical at the same time. I feel that it would have been a bigger tragedy to keep this warbird locked up in a museum. She had a devoted family of mechanics, pilots, crew, and volunteers to keep her airworthy and a plane like that needs to spread her wings.

I was only ever a volunteer, but I will cherish the time I was able to spend showing people the aircraft and the flights I had for the rest of my life.

Rest in peace Liberty Belle, thank you for getting your final crew on the ground safe.


Nice picture! Any chanse there is a high resolution one?

Too sad with Liberty Belle nope


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#3318767 - 06/14/11 02:48 PM Re: B-17 "Liberty Belle" Down [Re: Weasel_Keeper]
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If it had to happen, better with a trained crew only on board than carrying civilians enjoying a Fathers Day treat. Could of been a much worse tragedy.
I presume looking at the pix that some components will be able to be salvaged anfd may give life to another vintage bird hopefully.
Very sad.
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#3318770 - 06/14/11 02:51 PM Re: B-17 "Liberty Belle" Down [Re: Weasel_Keeper]
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From what I can tell, the landing was simply a 'forced landing'. The damage to the airframe was caused by the fire, not the landing itself. This would explain why the props weren't bent.

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#3319034 - 06/14/11 10:18 PM Bloody good bit of flying! [Re: Weasel_Keeper]
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The pilot deserves a medal under the circumstances!
The facts speak for themselves... Perfect three point on a wing and a prayer!
And there maybe life in those engines, yet!

Sad to lose the old girl, but Duxford is just putting the finishing touches on another babe!
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#3319339 - 06/15/11 09:55 AM Re: B-17 "Liberty Belle" Down [Re: Weasel_Keeper]
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check this out for FACTS

liberty belle offical webpage frown

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#3319380 - 06/15/11 11:02 AM Re: B-17 "Liberty Belle" Down [Re: Rook_336th]
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Originally Posted By: Rook_336th

The death of this fine lady comes as a shock and I feel sad for the loss but I feel a bit philosophical at the same time. I feel that it would have been a bigger tragedy to keep this warbird locked up in a museum.


I feel totally opposite from you, but I guess why opinions are like @ssholes, everybody's got one...

Too bad she couldn't have been preserved for future generations, and maybe they could have used her for a painstaking perfect rebuild some day. Anyway, it is not that sad regarding B-17s, because a lot of those are still flying. But the unique remaining types that some people keep flying... Well, that is just a disaster when they go down.
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#3319859 - 06/15/11 11:25 PM Re: B-17 "Liberty Belle" Down [Re: Weasel_Keeper]
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Here's more info from the Liberty Foundation on the loss:

http://www.libertyfoundation.org/index.html

It sounds to me like there was minimal damage from the landing, and the firetrucks could have put the fire out but didn't want to get stuck on the wet field, so they didn't go in.
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#3319875 - 06/15/11 11:49 PM Re: B-17 "Liberty Belle" Down [Re: Weasel_Keeper]
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#3319877 - 06/15/11 11:50 PM Re: B-17 "Liberty Belle" Down [Re: Weasel_Keeper]
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this is why they shouldn't fly these planes except for special occasions because the odds of them crashing is too high they got their crew though the war and should be left in peace to rest, but on the upside at least the crew got clear.

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#3319878 - 06/15/11 11:50 PM Re: B-17 "Liberty Belle" Down [Re: Arthonon]
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Originally Posted By: Arthonon
Here's more info from the Liberty Foundation on the loss:

http://www.libertyfoundation.org/index.html

It sounds to me like there was minimal damage from the landing, and the firetrucks could have put the fire out but didn't want to get stuck on the wet field, so they didn't go in.


That's wrong. I can understand for a typical plane, but for a historical plane like that, do whatever you can to attempt to save it.
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