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#3317529 - 06/13/11 12:34 AM FCC 3 installed and tested
Bluedeath Offline
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I'm a proud owner of a brand new FCC3 i really like the feel of it but there is less play then i expected (or i tighten the mounting screws too much) i experienced a very small drifting from the center at first install but after a second more accurate HW centering it disappeared completely, after a while i discovered that it was worsened by the c clamp that i use to fix the thing to the desk, I'm working on a support that will distribute loads more evenly but even with the c clamp only a couple of points of drift are there and they can be rid of by a 3% dead zone settings.
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#3317687 - 06/13/11 07:53 AM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: Bluedeath]
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Ok, I'll bite. What's an FCC3? smile

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#3318204 - 06/13/11 06:56 PM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: Bluedeath]
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Force Controlled Cougar?
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#3318333 - 06/14/11 12:31 AM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: Bluedeath]
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Yes is the new version of the force controlled cougar.
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#3318595 - 06/14/11 08:04 AM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: Bluedeath]
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Link? All I've found is FCC2 stuff (and no price)

I've got a Cougar that has all of an hour and a half on it...

tnx!

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#3319062 - 06/14/11 08:28 PM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: Bluedeath]
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This is the first I've heard of a new Force-Controlled Cougar revision...what's changed this time?

(I'm still using the FCC-1 that was preinstalled in my Cougar when I bought it used years ago.)

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#3319144 - 06/14/11 11:05 PM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: Bluedeath]
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Unit iself is identical to FCC-2 ( accordingly to the pictures of the FCC2 that I saw), Arend told me that 2 was no longer in production and the 3 has replaced it when i placed the order.
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#3319312 - 06/15/11 06:26 AM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: Bluedeath]
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a) WHERE?!
b) HOW MUCH?!
c) biggrin

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#3319685 - 06/15/11 02:29 PM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: Gene Buckle]
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Originally Posted By: Gene Buckle
a) WHERE?!
b) HOW MUCH?!
c) biggrin

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a) http://www.vipercore.nl/kontakt.php
b) ask Arend
c) WinkNGrin

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#3319719 - 06/15/11 03:55 PM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: Bluedeath]
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Thats a good Cougar going to waste there Gene.


Edited by HitchHikingFlatlander (06/15/11 03:57 PM)
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#3319986 - 06/16/11 02:07 AM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: JAMF]
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Originally Posted By: JAMF
...b) ask Arend...

confused Is it some big secret?...Are you guys under some kinda NDA?...Is it a violation of the forum's rules?
There are no prices discussed here, on viperpits, at his site, etc. What gives?

Obviously prices flucuate as material costs do, but it's not like anyone is going to hold him to it.
I think we're all just looking for a ballpark number. Can anyone at least say if it's noticeably cheaper than the FSSB mods?
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#3319992 - 06/16/11 02:29 AM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: Bluedeath]
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i can say that the price is more or less the same, FCC price does include shipping costs (not customs taxes of course), FSSB I don't know. Choice is dictated by personal preferences, FCC can be set up with some play(like the real thing) if wanted while FSSB can't. FSSB has jumper to set response while FCC sensitivity has to be set up in the cougar control panel.


Edited by Bluedeath (06/16/11 02:32 AM)
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#3320094 - 06/16/11 06:29 AM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: Bluedeath]
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The price is more or less the same AS WHAT? Is there a place to actually purchase this thing, or is it just all pictures and vague hand waving?

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#3320108 - 06/16/11 06:58 AM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: Bluedeath]
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FSSB R1 is 320€ without S/H FCC costs around 350€ shipped i have no idea on the taxes outside Europen Union for FCC (don't know where FSSB is sent from).


Edited by Bluedeath (06/16/11 07:00 AM)
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#3320144 - 06/16/11 07:46 AM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: Bluedeath]
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Ye gods. That's nearly $500 USD.

Thanks for the info Bluedeath.

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#3320235 - 06/16/11 09:37 AM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: Bluedeath]
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You're welcome. Force sensors are expensive but once tried you will never go back if you fly a viper and (if nothing goes FUBAR)the sensor should outlast me, for other stuff i have an "usbified" modded F22pro and I'm working on something modular for center mount .
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#3320273 - 06/16/11 10:17 AM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: GrizzlyT]
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Originally Posted By: GrizzlyT
Originally Posted By: JAMF
...b) ask Arend...

confused Is it some big secret?...Are you guys under some kinda NDA?...Is it a violation of the forum's rules?
There are no prices discussed here, on viperpits, at his site, etc. What gives?




I've never understood that either. It really irks me when prices aren't published. It smells of: one price for you, and a different one for my friends.
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#3320354 - 06/16/11 11:38 AM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: Bluedeath]
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smile I just didn't know the price and the contact details were in the first link. Having a not so strong currency has it's up and down sides. Holidays abroad and purchases overseas are expensive, but on eBay overseas bidders are willing to bid more.

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#3323224 - 06/20/11 09:44 AM Re: FCC 3 installed and tested [Re: Ltfransky]
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Originally Posted By: Ltfransky
Originally Posted By: GrizzlyT
Originally Posted By: JAMF
...b) ask Arend...

confused Is it some big secret?...Are you guys under some kinda NDA?...Is it a violation of the forum's rules?
There are no prices discussed here, on viperpits, at his site, etc. What gives?




I've never understood that either. It really irks me when prices aren't published. It smells of: one price for you, and a different one for my friends.


I actually didn't put the price because at firs i believed that was against the rules, i mean that people should contact the seller to avoid misunderstandings. But i didn't find such a thing.


Edited by Bluedeath (06/20/11 09:46 AM)
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