Hello,
I've been playing the SAM sim for some time, getting the hang of it.
I managed to shoot down a B-52 in the Vietnam scenario.
Is there any way to distinguish between targets (on the P-18 screen, for example).
I would like to know what I'm shooting at, if it's a B-52 or another type of aircraft.

Is there any way to distinguish between targets (on the P-18 screen, for example).
I would like to know what I'm shooting at, if it's a B-52 or another type of aircraft.

Your options for non cooperating target recognition is pretty limited.


In theory, comparing the plotting board to the P18 image is according to the book.
(Target type "8" on the plotting board is B52, "3" everybody else)

Another way is using our EW knowledge, due to physics, jamming metric wavelength radar is pretty space consuming.
(In short, only B52, or specialized EW aircraft could jam it. Fighters cannot.)

Thanks for the interesting remarks.
I'd say the targets are non cooperating, some of them even fired Shrikes at me!

I tried to shoot down an RS-2US practice target in Ustka and it seems that the first target, 1101 just stays on the ground (speed 0, altitude 0). I'm also not sure if everything's ok with 1102, the speed readout could be wrong as well.
A bug? Does anybody have a similar problem?

1101 is a Polish warship, safeguarding the firing range.

1102 is a MiG-21 (Fishbed) fighter, that first fly a parallel path than turns on the SAM battery.
At about 25~30km range, it launches an RS-2US (AA-1 Alkali) short range Air-to-Air missile towards us.

To safeguard the MiG, the missiles has self destruct timers, that blows up over 20km range.

Good Polish article about Ustka:
http://infowsparcie.net/wria/o_autorze/poligony.html#poligon02

Thanks Hpasp, for the explanation and the link!
Maybe it would be useful to add a short briefing to the scenario to avoid confusion in the future?

Nice! Now i know what was that UFO LOL
Can't wait for the next version and the Vietnamese Dvina. I never quite got a hang of the SA-5, it feels like operating a nuclear reactor (and i have played nuclear reactor sims...) No question that it's a system that requires elite operators. Personally i can't wait until you include the Kub (not Buk), after all it is long compromised. But i'm sure you have enough work for now, thanks again for the amazing free game.

You played a nuclear reactor sim? And I used to think that air traffic control sims were hardcore...

As regards the SA-5, it helps if you print the manual and select a big, slow, fat plane as your target.
Of course it takes more to master the system, but at least you can shoot down something.

Videos, videos, videos... S-75 Vietnam and polygon, C-300 polygons. Excuse me, but all in Russian.

http://rutube.ru/tracks/1889976.html?v=6b7d316cbdabd19f7dc16d8de0082573
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3865942.html?v=23bae6b7e0a2655c1b43a4861191fc1a
http://rutube.ru/tracks/1649431.html?v=90f8edf65dd939bfaad41fd5cda7b327
http://rutube.ru/tracks/4310405.html?v=c1f2f08c5f7ac3982e70fcbcffaad25d
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3391099.html?v=fdc7bbf90704cbaee5f1cf350bcc4ce9
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3389731.html?v=8d75b4db56c7f0d179881f064110902a
http://rutube.ru/tracks/2033732.html?v=480b3665a6a2387c920c6cc1777a31b1

"Dance with death". A Russian documentary film about the S-75 in Vietnam (though not all the shots from there).
http://rutube.ru/tracks/1514288.html?v=3629b40684086bfccda7963776b9092a

KRUG (SA-4B) IPP indicator with ground clutter...