Agressorblue,

The problem I see to convert SFS pot with HALL inside is the long travel of wiper.
In any case look at DocFlyer solution for convert Suncom F-15 pots to HALL:
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ub...tml#Post3108472
He says that get 100% of response from HALL.

for SFS I think that use R/C helicopter ball link and a rotary setup, with pot or HALL is more practical:
Here's mine: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2904142/Suncom_SFS.html#Post2904142

I reuse SFS handle PCB's with minor modifications, see drawings.

Sokol1

Ok, so I've been studying Doc flyers pics, and I think I can do that. Your mod to the throttle might also work Sokol1. I am curious though, with your throttle mod, are you saying you limited the physical travel of the throttle Handel sweep, or the travel of the Pen stick/magnet setup? I think I have a solution to the latter:

<this arm would allow me to fine tune travel arc, which, in concert with adjustable push-rod horn hardware, would give me slop free operation.


I'm still looking for general info as to what the "rules" are when it comes to placing Hall sensors. Any help there would be great. Also, does anyone recommended and specific type of Hall sensor? Or any Specs I should look for when shopping for them? I had my eyes on these guys: http://cgi.ebay.com/5pcs-NEW-A3144-A3144...812437641712859

Throttle travel don't change, but with different lengths in throttle lever and in lever that rotate Bic section I match the ~90 110/120 degrees of movement in throttle levers to ~40 degrees in magnets (around Bic section).
In lever - made by PCB part - that rotate Bic section are multiples holes for adjust, like in this Servo horn (linked).
This arrange are a "ad hoc" solution.
In the next (SFS) I think in use RC helicopter ball links, more "elegant".
http://img.alibaba.com/wsphoto/v0/384003507/Metal-Ball-Links-and-Bar-RC-Parts-RC-Accessories.jpg

For HALL sensor you need Radiometric type. This in eBay link dont say this, maybe are just switch...
I advise buy one already tested - Allegro A1302 EUAT:
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=allegro+hall+sensor&_sacat=0&_odkw=honeywell+hall&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l131

Or A1321 - that is more sensible. Or Honeyweel SS495/496 series.

You already read this?

http://www.jpfiles.com/hardware/uni_stick.pdf

And this: http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/content.php/172-Mikes-Tips-%28Rotary%29-Hall-Position-Sensors


General layout - with only one magnet:
http://img641.imageshack.us/i/hall2a.jpg/

Sokol1

Thanks for the links Sokol1, that's exactly what I needed

Time to hit the books...

Alright, so the X-board came a few days ago, and I have to say it's a very impressive bit of hardware.

That said, are there any instructions out there for this thing? Namely I want to make sure I don't short something out by putting wires in the wrong places. It seems that the forums on Leo's site are down, so that option is out at least.

Hall sensors on on their way too. Got 5 for about $10, so I can afford to burn one out if I make a mistake.

aggressorblue, I hope you do not mind me joining your topic.
I also just bought a Suncom F15E and Suncom Talon Stick/Throttle combo. I'm looking into modifying the combo too.

I have 3 possibilities:
1. Buy a gameport>USB adapter. Will probably just buy one to try out the stick. The feel is great, by the way.
2. Go down the separate board way, the same as your approach.
3. I have an old Saitek X45 Hotas. Could I just re-use it's electronics and buttons and integrate it into the Suncom Hotas? The Saitek pots will have to be replaced by the Suncom ones.

Just thinking out loud.

Not sure what to do with the F15E stick. It's the same as the Talon one, right, only with key programming possibilities?

I'm using Win7 64 bit by the way and will use the Suncom Hotas for the VRS F18 Superbug addon for FSX and DCS A-10C.

Thanks.

Regarding 3:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2uh506h.gif

Thanks Jeroen!
I suppose it is the wiring diagram of the X45. No clue (very little) how to read it. (yet)
But I'll find out!

1 - These USB>Gameport adapter use 8 bits controller... and dont work for all programmable buttons of gameport HOTAS (Ie Suncom, CH-F16 or Tm F16/F22).

But, since Suncom use keyboard emulation through DIN/PS2 keyboard connector, you have chance to get work axis through USB adapter and buttons - include HAT's - through keyboard connection and use the four modes to program buttons and HAT's.

Sokol1

Yes.
The colors correspond to the wires going to the PCB inside the stick.
the numbers correspond to pins on the throttle's connector.

SH1/SH2 stick hats 1 and 2
S1-S6 stick switches 1 to 6
TH3/TH4 throttle hats 3 and 4
MU/MD mode up and down
AU/AD aux up and down
T7/T8 throttleswitch 7 and 8
JX/JY joystick X and Y axis
TH throttle axis
RD rudder axis
R1/R2 rotaries 1 and 2

The triangles are diodes to prevent key ghosting.
Rectangles are resistors.
U, D, L, R ect are the directions of the hats.
UL, UR etc are the diagonal directions and a combination of up/down and left/right.
The switches are laid out in a matrix.
The analog axes use pots.
They share two lines in common on the outer pins. (5V and ground)
The middle wiper pin has a seperate line for each pot.