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#3272066 - 04/16/11 07:33 PM Just watched the last 3 episodes of BSG and ...
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THANK GOODNESS that is over. This series is exactly why I should not pay for netflix. I tried watching this when it came out but couldn't get into it. A friend of mine later on told me I really should give it another shot ... so once I got netflix i did.

The further I got into it I realized that there must be something wrong with me. I couldn't stand the show but I kept watching because of the praise I see on here ... I was thinking stick with it. Then I got so far I just had to finish.

My problem with the show started when they decided to sacrifice the Pegasus. This ship was dramatically more powerful than galactica. Who the hell would do that? But I think the episode that made me think that these humans were both to stupid and to weak to survive was the episode where they had the cylon virus. They jump into the system, engage the cylons, for NOTHING because 1 ahole has a moral objection to WIPING out a race whose soul mission at this time was to wipe out humanity. And his punishment, NOTHING. How did ya'll continue to enjoy this thing after the new Caprica episodes?

How does Firefly get cancelled after one year and this crap continue for 4.5 seasons ... and has a spinoff.

From what I have read, I seem to be the only one who feels this way. What is the matter with me?

P.S. Why did they keep calling Starbuck the angel of death or whatever they kept calling her? It seemed to me like she was the key character who lead to their salvation? Agghhhhhh!

Sorry rant off...
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#3272074 - 04/16/11 07:44 PM Re: Just watched the last 3 episodes of BSG and ... [Re: Kelen]
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Ok, sorry. Just had to get that out. It was very theraputic(sp?).

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#3272102 - 04/16/11 08:28 PM Re: Just watched the last 3 episodes of BSG and ... [Re: Kelen]
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Hey, at least you gave the show a shot before you decided to give your final judgement on it. All I can say is that not every show will appeal to everyone. For example, I also love Firefly like you seem to do but I know plenty of people who didn't care for it at all.

In answer to your questions,

1. The Pegasus was sacrificed because it was the only way to buy the Galactica enough time to FTL to safety. Besides, the show is called Battlestar Galactica, not Battlestar Pegasus. smile

2. Starbuck was referred to as the "Harbinger of Death" by the cylon hybrid and as you saw in the finale, she did indeed lead humanity to its end. She instead brought death to the cylons.

Here is the full prophecy from the hybrid in "Razor",

Kara Thrace will lead the human race to its end. She is the herald of the apocalypse, the harbinger of death. They must not follow her.

3. I do agree with you that Helo (Karl Agathon) got off way too easy for disobeying the orders of Adama by botching the plans to wipe out the cylons with the virus.
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#3272153 - 04/16/11 11:40 PM Re: Just watched the last 3 episodes of BSG and ... [Re: Kelen]
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Ok, so where did Starbuck go when Lee was talking to her at the end? I just don't feel like I fully grasp what they were trying to do with her. And what was Baltar? I have my suspicions but they are to crazy to say out loud.

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#3272273 - 04/17/11 05:26 AM Re: Just watched the last 3 episodes of BSG and ... [Re: Kelen]
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Originally Posted By: Kelen
Ok, so where did Starbuck go when Lee was talking to her at the end? I just don't feel like I fully grasp what they were trying to do with her. And what was Baltar? I have my suspicions but they are to crazy to say out loud.

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Baltar was strictly human so no mystery there. However, the "Head" Baltar and Six that you saw in the finale were indeed "angels" who were overseeing the course of events and giving guidance from time to time to see if the endless cycle of war between humanity and cylon would be broken.

Admittedly, there was a lot of stuff about Starbuck was was left unexplained and left up to the audience to interpret. Some people like that approach but others dont. That's all I can say about that! LOL

Her disappearance while talking to Lee on Earth was clearly evidence that she was indeed not the same Starbuck that she was before her "death". My theory is that she was an "angel" but in the flesh who was resurrected and sent back for the purpose of leading humanity to Earth. Once that was done, her corporeal existence was no longer needed.
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#3272342 - 04/17/11 07:38 AM Re: Just watched the last 3 episodes of BSG and ... [Re: Kelen]
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Kelen, you're not entirely alone. I thought the first three seasons were very good, but agree that it fell apart after the Pegasus was destroyed. I don't think I was bothered as much by you with the Pegasus being lost, as I think it was just the way things turned out to a certain extent.

They kept the best ship with the rest of the fleet for protection, but when Apollo decided to come help, the Galactica was maybe in a better position to escape, and the Pegasus just got hammered. But the episodes after that went way down in my opinion, and I felt the ending was extremely lame.
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#3272408 - 04/17/11 10:02 AM Re: Just watched the last 3 episodes of BSG and ... [Re: Kelen]
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No, you're definitely not alone, Kelen. Overall I was very disappointed with the series for many of the same reasons that you were. The series seemed to drag on for so long with nothing of consequence happening WRT the search for Earth, then within about 6 episodes everything was resolved. Can you say "deus ex machina"? And what the hell was the purpose of the "Razor" episode? OK, so we found out that the Cylons did unpleasant things to humans back when Bill Adama was a butterbar. Was it really necessary to know that before we could be shown that the Cylons did unpleasant things to humans NOW as well?

Then there was the episode where Chief Tyrol told Magurski (sp?) to forget about getting the down Vipers back to mission-capable status and come watch the fights. First of all, there's not a military in existence where the chief wouldn't be working along with his crews. Second, why would Adama tell Tyrol to get his fat ass in the ring and fight, land a few good punches, then let himself get beat down to make some kind of stupid point?

All in all, I thought it was lame from beginning to end, with the exception of Galactica's FTL into & out of New Caprica's atmosphere in "Exodus," the series finale "Daybreak," and maybe a few other episodes or parts of episodes.
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#3272424 - 04/17/11 10:38 AM Re: Just watched the last 3 episodes of BSG and ... [Re: NH2112]
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Originally Posted By: NH2112
And what the hell was the purpose of the "Razor" episode? OK, so we found out that the Cylons did unpleasant things to humans back when Bill Adama was a butterbar. Was it really necessary to know that before we could be shown that the Cylons did unpleasant things to humans NOW as well?



Razor revealed and explained many things.

1. Admiral Cain's background and why she did what she did.

2. How Gina ended up on the Pegasus and how she was captured.

3. The hybrid's revelation to Kendra about Starbuck's destiny and nature (this was the very first time this info was revealed in the series).

4. The original cylon centurions experimenting on humans and we get to see the genesis of what later on became the "skinjob" models.


If you didn't like "Razor" you will absolutely hate "The Plan". lol
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#3272431 - 04/17/11 10:47 AM Re: Just watched the last 3 episodes of BSG and ... [Re: Kelen]
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"deus ex machina" is exactly why the only TV I watch any more is comedy. When your forced to fit a square-shaped narrative into a circle-shaped media schedule, things get messy. You get awkward mixes of drawn out events vs. abrupt conclusions, pointless cock-tease cliff hangers, the inability to kill characters when needed (due to contractual obligations) and all the other crap mentioned above.

Also, the Pegasus had to be destroyed because it removed much of the peril the audience felt when the fleet was under attack.
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#3272486 - 04/17/11 12:58 PM Re: Just watched the last 3 episodes of BSG and ... [Re: AggressorBLUE]
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Originally Posted By: aggressorblue
Also, the Pegasus had to be destroyed because it removed much of the peril the audience felt when the fleet was under attack.

Plus, they didn't want to have to change the name of the show to "Battlestar Pegasus." smile
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