MM,

I think you have some good options to explore before looking to reinvent the wheel with a new switch...

1. Contact Horst for the switches he used to make his KG13s
2. Contact the guys selling the KG13 sim control stick
Tarmac Aces site, then go to KG13 stick
3. See what this other guy used that just posted his stick
4. Pull apart an old TM F16 stick and use its guts

If these dont pan out, ill try to help you find a micro momentary switch, like:
6mm x 6mm momentary switch
or
tactile switches

Then you can hide the Leo PCB inside the KG13 electrical box.

Thanks Chaps for the help, now at least I have an idea what should I have
I planned to buy some simple switches, and to ask the guys at my workplace to machine some sockets and caps from black plastic. But of course If they are already available, i am not dumb to work in vane.

Hans,

I sent a mail to you regarding the buttons. It is a pitty that you deleted the pictures of your steurknüppel. It looks amazing!!

Not really. This thread is about your work.
Email received.

MMaister,

For micro switch use the same used by CH Products (know for last longer), the OMRON tactile micro switch:

http://www.newark.com/omron-electronic-components/b3f-5050/tactile-switch/dp/88F4982?Ntt=88F4982

With these planed machined caps, fit perfectly.

Sokol1

Hi Sokol,

thanks for the tip!

Honestly I would like something similar to the original. Those had a few mmm of travel, but these micro switches have basicly none.:(

Hi guys, I really liked the work VO101MMaister. I also want to make yourself KG13A. I live in Russia. And manufacture control device for the simulator Il2 Shturmovik
Therefore, the desired size from the first page. AV8R, I beg you to give the dimensions A, B, C, D, F, H, G, I, J, L, M, O, N, R, S, P.
I do not speak English. Translate the text in the translator http://translate.google.ru/

KG13A plan to put here for such a mechanism http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=577

Hi Baur,

you show some great skills on that russian forum. Wish I could speak russian.
Could you briefly explain the advantages of your mechanism? It is very interesting.

I will be very hard to do this without the knowledge of the English language. Unfortunately, I have not found such a number of different control devices, what we do in Russia. On your forums, just like a nice appearance. In Russia, the first simulation of flight control.
But I'll try to explain:
I understand that the question applies here to this option mechanics - http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=577&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75

If this interests you, then give the photos. The basic idea is that the mechanism itself becomes the center. It can be done without a sense of center. And with a sense of passage of the center, changing the plates zagruzhateley. Therefore, feeling dependent on the geometry of their edges.

Even replacing the springs, you can pick up the force on the control stick:)

Hi Baur,

I think I understand.

Because the two levers put equal pressure on the bearing attached to the stick you can release it in any position and it will stay there.

Am I correct ?

Very clever design and superb engineering.

Well done,

Andy

Yeah, right! But it's not all! Having the same mechanic, you can do pass through the center stick control sensitive or not. For this we need to replace the two levers and change sensations of motion control stick Availability Center - constant discussions with our pilots' flight simulators.

Andy, here is a pedal - http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=584 http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=575 They are simple, but I think it will be interesting to see. They are similar to the fighter Bf-109 and FW-190. And from the Mi-8 helicopter.

Getting Started. Still need the size that I requested from the beginning.

This do??
http://www.gavca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18007
Amazing model!! Well done..

Update!

Slow progress. Finally I could mount the buttons. I got a free set from Boandlgramer (thank you m8!!) and I also bought a set from the Tarmac guys. Well, the final button setup is a kind of mixture of these. I am very happy with the result. They look and feel great! I need to drill some holes and cut some threads for the button fixing screws. I will do it soon. I can`t wait the paint this beast:)

Some pictures:


DSC_0043_DxO by csaba.moharos, on Flickr


DSC_0017_DxO by csaba.moharos, on Flickr


DSC_0015_DxO by csaba.moharos, on Flickr


DSC_0020_DxO by csaba.moharos, on Flickr


DSC_0036_DxO by csaba.moharos, on Flickr

Hi everyone,

after almost a half year, some hundred hours of planning, experimenting, handcrafting and spending a few hundreds bucks my project has come to an end:)


DSC_1036 by csaba.moharos, on Flickr

As a last step of machining I had milled the holes of the button holding screws.
Then I started to paint the stick. That was realy fun. After studying lot of reference pictures I used semigloss black for the stick and gloss black for the junction box.
I decided to make some weathering on it, so now it shows some patina. I sanded some paint down here and there, and made the screws corroded a bit with vinegar:).
I mounted the sign plate and finally soldered wires to the buttons. Finally I could install the trigger properly and trim the trigger spring.
Now everything is installed and fixed, all the functions work properly, ready for some future action:) All along the project I have tried to stick to the real Steuerknüppel as much as possible, and I am very happy with the result.

Thank you all for following and commenting this thread. Thank you for your help and ideas.
I am especially thankful for my friend VO101_Menyus, who made the casting for me,
to Balazs Schuller who helped me to find a solution for the "Fischhaut",
to Horst Rienecker, who supplied fantastic original parts and valuable information about the real thing,
to Hans "Boandlgramer" Schmid who generously offered and sent me super buttons
and the Tarmac Aces, who also supplied me a set of buttons and their piece of art works were really motivating as well.

The next task is to build a proper base for this grip. I already have some ideas and I have begun to make design sketches. I will open another thread for it soon.

Cheers
MM

And here are some more pictures of course:)

DSC_0098_DxO by csaba.moharos, on Flickr


DSC_0095_DxO by csaba.moharos, on Flickr


DSC_0091_DxO by csaba.moharos, on Flickr


DSC_0087_DxO by csaba.moharos, on Flickr


DSC_0086_DxO by csaba.moharos, on Flickr


DSC_0085_DxO by csaba.moharos, on Flickr


DSC_0084_DxO by csaba.moharos, on Flickr


DSC_0079_DxO by csaba.moharos, on Flickr


DSC_0077_DxO by csaba.moharos, on Flickr


DSC_0076_DxO by csaba.moharos, on Flickr


DSC_0065_DxO by csaba.moharos, on Flickr

That's something to be proud of. Brilliant work!!

No fair showing a real piece, claiming it to be a replica.






Quality job! You might expect calls from all around the world now.

Thanks chaps

Yeah I think I will just quit my job and start a small KG13 producing workshop, right on Monday:D

What JAMF said.
Fantastic work, csaba.

But if you really want another job, then you are MY man .