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#3235579 - 03/16/11 03:15 AM Re: I need some Hall Sensor help [Re: VO101MMaister]
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i just bought this:

link

Do you guys think that is ok?

How much degree of travel should i use in a floor stick (side to side)?


Edited by Bluedeath (03/16/11 03:23 AM)
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#3235814 - 03/16/11 09:43 AM Re: I need some Hall Sensor help [Re: VO101MMaister]
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Bluedeath,

Before define degrees for joystick travel measure how many degrees
you get with you HALL assembly, and use this to define pole length,
base hight.

For example, if you use a 75 cm pole - approximated height need for base
in floor with conventional desk chair - to achieve + 20 - 20 degrees
in HALL, you need around 52 cm of travel in top of stick, that is too much,
causing conflict with legs. smile

I suggest to you make some simulation with some CAD soft - the freeware Google
Sketchup do this and is easy to use.

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#3237533 - 03/18/11 05:46 AM Re: I need some Hall Sensor help [Re: VO101MMaister]
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You're right my actual question should have been how much travel (in centimeters) do the center stick mounted in real fighter aircraft do have (Average)?
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#3238451 - 03/18/11 09:30 PM Re: I need some Hall Sensor help [Re: VO101MMaister]
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Real modern fighter like F-18 (since some others use sensor force sticks) or WWII fighter? smile

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#3240457 - 03/21/11 04:06 AM Re: I need some Hall Sensor help [Re: VO101MMaister]
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You are right, i think that F15 or A10 is what i have in mind as a model (but i actually don't know the differences between sticks of these planes), i would like to use the center mounted stick for helicopter sims also so i need to find a good compromise. as for the angle im planning to use teflon gears to amplify movement range, siwhat i really need is just to find out the correct amount of travel of the stick.
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#3265555 - 04/09/11 08:00 PM Re: I need some Hall Sensor help [Re: Bluedeath]
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Here's a snippet from a book Hall-effect Sensors: Theory and Applications
Might try inter-library loan from your local library to get full book.

I used the method shown in figure 6-12 to make cheap pots to put in my Cougar. The range of motion of the Cougar is in the very nearly linear portion of the hall-effect sensor output so no correction needed.

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#3265665 - 04/09/11 11:01 PM Re: I need some Hall Sensor help [Re: Bluedeath]
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Originally Posted By: Bluedeath
You are right, i think that F15 or A10 is what i have in mind as a model (but i actually don't know the differences between sticks of these planes), i would like to use the center mounted stick for helicopter sims also so i need to find a good compromise. as for the angle im planning to use teflon gears to amplify movement range, siwhat i really need is just to find out the correct amount of travel of the stick.


Fyi, the Current A-10 uses the same Stick grip as the F-16:


And the F-15/F-18 use the T-shaped stick:


More on the F-15 stick can be found here:
http://www.f-15e.info/joomla/technology/cockpit/80-pilot-flight-stick

I personally prefer the F-15/18 style. The F16/A-10 stick has an extra hat, but you have to reach over it to hit the fire button. Your also reaching over the lower right hat to each the upper.


That said, you can Source an F-15/18 stick from a Suncom talon joystick, or an A-10/F-16 stick from a CH fighterstick. The latter can be found for cheap on ebay if you look for the serial port model (the one that doesn't support USB), as they've become outdated.


Edited by aggressorblue (04/09/11 11:09 PM)
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#3265935 - 04/10/11 07:53 AM Re: I need some Hall Sensor help [Re: VO101MMaister]
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Quote:
I used the method shown in figure 6-12 to make cheap pots to put in my Cougar.


Dorght

That's match with Bic assembly. smile

Interesting read, thanks for post.

Agressorblue,

Maybe arranges show in figure 6-10 and 6-11 work for replace SFS pot's.

Sokol1


Edited by Sokol1 (04/10/11 08:05 AM)

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#3266793 - 04/11/11 07:01 AM Re: I need some Hall Sensor help [Re: VO101MMaister]
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I already have F15 grip (from talon) F-16 grip (form CH fighter stick) and (cheap) B8 stick (from TM FCS MK1), im using 10 pin round Amphenol connectorto mount the grip on the stick, i figured out that i can reduce the travel of the stick to less than 20° by placing magnets nearer than the normal BIC assembly , basically put 3 5mm side cubic magnet together and i glue the 2 external ones on 2 PVC plastic rails with cyano acrilate glue and the i push out the middle one.
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