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#3220869 - 02/28/11 04:41 PM Stargate Revisited
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So, the last two months or so I've been rewatching the Stargate franchise and I still love it. I started with the 1994 movie, followed by SG1 and the movies, Atlantis and now Universe.

The movie is a lot more serious than the later series but I do quite like it.

SG1, that series still rocks! The mixture of action, seriousness and humor is just great. I also liked the last two seasons with the Ori arc. However, the last two seasons basically only revolved around the Ori, there wasn't anything else going on. The Goa'uld were the better villains than the Ori, but after seven seasons it was becoming repetitive. Kill one System Lord and enter the next one. The season finale was definitely different, but very enjoyable. Ark of Truth gave a good closure to the Ori arc, but Continuum was, although enjoyable, not necessary from my point of view.

Atlantis is a great series as well. I liked the cross-overs with SG-1 and later the introduction of SG-1 characters in SGA, it definitely makes it obvious that both series take place in the same universe. The Wraith were good villains, I especially like Todd. One thing I definitely didn't like were the Asurans/Replicators. They were also in SG1 and having them, even though different from SG1, feels like lazy writing. But the series does end too abruptly and the finale was too much in too little time. Let's hope someday a movie will be made tying up loose ends, but I doubt it.

The cast changes in both series didn't mind me that much. I actually think it adds some degree of realism. People get reassigned in real life and I think both series handled it well.

Now Universe, I've never seen it before and I have to say it's very different from the previous series. It's dark and gloomy, but it does suit the premise of the series. I like it. Too bad it got cancelled already.

Any other Stargate fans around here?

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#3221059 - 02/28/11 11:00 PM Re: Stargate Revisited [Re: Jaz]
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I loves me some SG1. Was never a big fan of the Film though. But the Show, as you said, struck an chord of action with comedy. smile
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#3221177 - 03/01/11 05:17 AM Re: Stargate Revisited [Re: Jaz]
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Love Stargate, was taken to see the film by a young Dutch lady in Plymouth many years ago. When the series came out in the UK I was working away from home and had little access to TV so only caught a few episodes now and then. Now I'm retired and bought the boxed set of SG1 + films (along with a boxed set of Babylon 5,crusade etc. 70%off on Amazon biggrin ) and watched them with great enjoyment, I have seen one or two SG Atlantis episodes and it was only on here that I found out about SGU and still have never seen a single episode. At Christmas past there was a boxed set of SGU in the supermarket in Hasselt but as I never had enough money on me to get it I had to leave it on the shelf, I went back a week later and it was sold out frown So still not seen SGU.

My wife does not like SciFi at all and will not watch anything like that frown
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#3221200 - 03/01/11 05:45 AM Re: Stargate Revisited [Re: Jaz]
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I absolutely love, love the Stargate film and it's the only film from Roland Emmerich that I liked enough to buy on dvd. I have still not watched any of the Stargate tv series but I definitely plan on doing so sometime in the future.

Too bad about SG:U getting canned after 2 seasons. I guess it deviated too much from the previous SG series for most fans.
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#3221481 - 03/01/11 10:39 AM Re: Stargate Revisited [Re: Jaz]
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Two months? Geez, I started rewatching SG-1 over a year ago I think and I'm only up to season 7's finale! Of course, I've also been rewatching Firefly and ST: Voyager on DVD along with new TV, so I'm hardly devoting my time to it heavily, and I never watch more than 1 ep per day (with the exception of the S7 finale which despite being 2 hrs and airing as 2 eps I watched in one sitting).
Now I'll alternate S8 with S1 of Atlantis as they aired concurrently and that will keep the crossovers chronological. I screwed up rewatching TNG because I was in the middle of S6 when they suddenly had a DS9 crossover and I'd not started DS9 yet. I didn't have to for Voyager, though, because it never had any DS9 crossovers beyond the pilot, although DS9 did have a sort-of Voyager crossover ep, but that's really going off topic.

Anyway, SG-1 and SG: Atlantis I thought were perfect mixes of serious SF and humor. The stories and situations were usually serious, with occasional humor coming from lines of dialogue, although there were a few notable mostly-comedic episodes like "The Other Guys" with the Canadian comedian whose name I forget (the guy with the duct tape) and ST: Enterprise's Dr Phlox in guest roles. Of course, there were the very serious eps, like the S5 finale or Heroes towards the end of S7, as well.

About the only thing that ever bothered me about the show was the fact that after a brief attempt in the first season to have language barriers when visiting other worlds, in lieu of creating a ST-style "universal translator" to talk to them or just having Daniel act as translator every single episode, they threw in the towel and just had everyone speak English. Except the Unas, but they weren't human anyway. smile



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#3221529 - 03/01/11 11:32 AM Re: Stargate Revisited [Re: Jedi Master]
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with the Canadian comedian whose name I forget (the guy with the duct tape)



That would be Patrick McKenna, the nerdy Harold Green from The Red Green Show, Red Green is the one with the Duct Tape. biggrin

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#3221772 - 03/01/11 04:04 PM Re: Stargate Revisited [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
Two months? Geez, I started rewatching SG-1 over a year ago I think and I'm only up to season 7's finale!

Yeah, I've got too much free time on my hands as my student visa prohibits me from working. And I don't watch a lot of tv, so I have a lot of time to watch Stargate.

Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
Now I'll alternate S8 with S1 of Atlantis as they aired concurrently and that will keep the crossovers chronological.


I should've done that as well. Would've been quite fun.

Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
About the only thing that ever bothered me about the show was the fact that after a brief attempt in the first season to have language barriers when visiting other worlds, in lieu of creating a ST-style "universal translator" to talk to them or just having Daniel act as translator every single episode, they threw in the towel and just had everyone speak English. Except the Unas, but they weren't human anyway. smile


That's the thing that bothers me as well. But I guess having Jackson as a translator would get annoying as well. The Goa'uld, Tok'ra and Jaffa do speak their own language from time to time. At least they created a believable reason why there are humans on almost every world they visit.

Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Too bad about SG:U getting canned after 2 seasons. I guess it deviated too much from the previous SG series for most fans.


Yup, it's definitely different from SG1 and Atlantis. It's far more serious, and I guess most Stargate fans loved SG1 and SGA for their mixture of humor and action. Even O'Neill is more serious than in SG1.

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#3221778 - 03/01/11 04:11 PM Re: Stargate Revisited [Re: Alicatt]
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Originally Posted By: Alicatt
At Christmas past there was a boxed set of SGU in the supermarket in Hasselt but as I never had enough money on me to get it I had to leave it on the shelf, I went back a week later and it was sold out frown So still not seen SGU.


Funny how in Europe the dvd's are out before it's even broadcast on tv. Back in the Netherlands, I saw the entire first season of Atlantis before a Dutch channel picked the series up. But the dvd was already in stores. smile

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#3221921 - 03/01/11 08:13 PM Re: Stargate Revisited [Re: Jaz]
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Originally Posted By: Jaz
Yup, it's definitely different from SG1 and Atlantis. It's far more serious, and I guess most Stargate fans loved SG1 and SGA for their mixture of humor and action. Even O'Neill is more serious than in SG1.

Jaz
I only saw a bit from a couple of episodes but it seemed to me that SG:U was trying to create its own type of BSG vibe. I don't know if it was coincidental or not but I noticed some striking similarities between Dr. Rush and Gaius Baltar.


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#3221951 - 03/01/11 08:57 PM Re: Stargate Revisited [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
I only saw a bit from a couple of episodes but it seemed to me that SG:U was trying to create its own type of BSG vibe. I don't know if it was coincidental or not but I noticed some striking similarities between Dr. Rush and Gaius Baltar.


Yeah, I thought so too in the beginning, but now I do see differences between the two. He's definitely a Machiavellian character though, with his own agenda. Rush is a bit more noble than Baltar in my opinion, but not much wink

The influences of BSG are clear, but those are mostly visual. The main characters are different from those of BSG, but like BSG they're all flawed and with skeletons in their closets. Maybe even more flawed than those of BSG. And that is something very different for the Stargate franchise, before SGU only characters working for the (Rogue) NID, Trust or IOA had those kind of qualities. In SG1 and SGA, the SGC personnel and their allies were good, and the villains really pure evil.

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