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#3594778 - 06/20/12 01:01 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Darn, it doesnt show up on search


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#3594802 - 06/20/12 01:43 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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#3594852 - 06/20/12 03:28 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: jazjar]
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Originally Posted By: jazjar
Darn, it doesnt show up on search


you should tag it...!!!!

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#3594949 - 06/20/12 06:29 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Hpasp,about the Vega, can I ask what the range is before the missile is incapable of achieving lock? Is it ~60km as vintorez stated? Also, is the increasing signal strength actually modelled when the missile to target distance is decreasing? Could we have the specifics on it, you said it was a logarithmic graph of some sort, correct? Thank you!

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#3595142 - 06/21/12 06:08 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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#3595221 - 06/21/12 10:22 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: jazjar]
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Originally Posted By: jazjar
Hpasp,about the Vega, can I ask what the range is before the missile is incapable of achieving lock? Is it ~60km as vintorez stated?


No.

When the missile looses its track, it will continue its flight straight.
It will be lost, when it flies out of its effective envelope.

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#3595222 - 06/21/12 10:25 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Hpasp, would you have an opinion on the Air Siberia shoot-down by Ukrainian SA-5?
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#3595248 - 06/21/12 11:34 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: GrayGhost]
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dear gray ghost .. im not mr.hpasP but......... i read about this senario! im sad about his happend nope

i dont know why sam crew dont use IFF system! duh
tracking unkown target without IFF Was a big mistake!

also this is not only happend! around 1980 or 1990 one uss navy (vinesens) tracking and hit one airbus number 655 with 2 missiles (standard missile 2) and after report action them cll'd ooo we hit f-14 ! and then after pass few houre they understand that hited plan is a civil airraft with around 200 passenger! nope


Originally Posted By: GrayGhost
Hpasp, would you have an opinion on the Air Siberia shoot-down by Ukrainian SA-5?

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#3595268 - 06/21/12 12:15 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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S-125 in Tripoli

One thing for Hpasp - Could be function of P-15 radar modified in that way that after we activate SAM battery one of the aircrafts targets our P-15 radar with its HARM? Now we have instantly destroyed P-15 radar in Benghazi and no attack against it in Tripoli.


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2:00am 15th of April, 1986.
Operation El-Dorado Canyon raid against Tripoli.

Targets:
Bab al-Aziziyah barracks - 6 F-111F Aardvark, each armed with 4 GBU-10 LGB
Murat Sidi Bilal Naval base - 3 F-111F Aardvark, each armed with 4 GBU-10 LGB
Tripoli AFB - 5 F-111F Aardvark, each armed with 12 Mk.82/BSU-49 high-drag bombs

Supporting force:
6 A-7E Corsair-II SEAD (VA-46 Clansmen, VA-72 Blue Hawks from the CV-66 USS America)
4 F-14A Tomcat CAP (VF-33 Starfighters, VF-102 Diamondbacks from the CV-66 USS America)
3 EF-111A Raven ECM
1 EA-6B Prowler ECM (VMAQ-2 Playboys from the CV-43 USS America)

S-125M1 Neva

00:00:36, F-111F Remit-31 bombed Bab al-Aziziyah barracks, with 4 GBU-10 LGB.

00:01:00, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 12km
Target azimuth: 326°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 49m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:01:06, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 10km
Target azimuth: 331°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 49m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:01:11, A-7E Corsair-II No.1, VA-46 Clansmen launched AGM-88 HARM missile No. 1


00:01:15, Missile exploded on Channel-1
F-111F Remit-33 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 25m)

00:01:20, Missile exploded on Channel-2
F-111F Remit-33 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 23m)

00:03:18, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 11km
Target azimuth: 333°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 49m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:03:23, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 10km
Target azimuth: 339°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 49m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:03:30, A-7E Corsair-II No.2, VA-46 Clansmen launched AGM-88 HARM missile No. 1


00:03:31, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 9km
Target azimuth: 349°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 49m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:03:36, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 8km
Target azimuth: 358°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 49m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:03:44, Missile exploded on Channel-1
F-111F Karma-51 hit by SAM. (miss distance: 111m)

00:03:49, Missile exploded on Channel-2
F-111F Karma-51 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 37m)
00:05:36, F-111F Jewel-61 bombed Murat Sidi Bilal Naval base, with 4 GBU-10 LGB.
00:06:08, F-111F Jewel-62 bombed Murat Sidi Bilal Naval base, with 4 GBU-10 LGB.

00:06:24, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 18km
Target azimuth: 298°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 49m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:06:29, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 16km
Target azimuth: 294°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 49m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:06:36, A-7E Corsair-II No.2, VA-72 Blue Hawks launched AGM-88 HARM missile No. 1

00:06:41, F-111F Jewel-63 bombed Murat Sidi Bilal Naval base, with 4 GBU-10 LGB.
00:06:49, F-111F Puffy-11 bombed Tripoli AFB, with 12 Mk.82/BSU-49 high-drag bombs.

00:06:50, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 12km
Target azimuth: 277°
Target elevation: 3°
Target altitude: 839m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:06:56, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 13km
Target azimuth: 273°
Target elevation: 3°
Target altitude: 840m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:07:19, Missile exploded on Channel-1
F-111F Jewel-63 hit by SAM. (miss distance: 107m)
00:07:53, F-111F Lujac-24 bombed Tripoli AFB, with 12 Mk.82/BSU-49 high-drag bombs.
00:08:28, F-111F Lujac-22 bombed Tripoli AFB, with 12 Mk.82/BSU-49 high-drag bombs.
00:09:00, F-111F Lujac-23 bombed Tripoli AFB, with 12 Mk.82/BSU-49 high-drag bombs.

Total, SNR On Air Time: 3min 10sec


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#3595285 - 06/21/12 12:41 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: GrayGhost]
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Originally Posted By: GrayGhost
Hpasp, would you have an opinion on the Air Siberia shoot-down by Ukrainian SA-5?


I cannot say anything about this incident, as I not seen any concrete information about it.
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