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#3569869 - 05/09/12 07:16 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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#3569875 - 05/09/12 07:46 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]
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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
Hi, Hpasp, many thanks for info, my dream is to get to operating S-200 system, but I think it is impossible :-)
And what is the display mode selector switch left to the GSN/KRO display (the one with descriptions of z beta/z and so).


That display can be used as an Oscilloscope, doing internal measurements, during system check.
You can set what to measure with this selector.
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#3569880 - 05/09/12 07:58 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: farokh]
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Originally Posted By: milang
looock at this picture !! dear pistoon79

i shot 2 missiles with sa-2E to asuluk training f104 !!!! looock az movment line missile!!! there is no Maneuvering in this picture

just directly moving to hit.... i see when real sa-2 fired... i think some where in sa-2e not simulating very corectly no one of sa-2 missile goes in directly line


Click to reveal..



Guess, that you looked it at the wrong angle/distance...
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#3569881 - 05/09/12 08:07 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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#3569887 - 05/09/12 08:34 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Speaking of new systems - It looks like the SA-6 "Kub" system is nearing the end of its life cycle, Russia only uses it as a training simulator anymore.
Is there any perspective of Hungary phasing their systems out in the coming years so they can be used for the simulator?


Edited by Architrav (05/09/12 08:36 AM)

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#3569892 - 05/09/12 08:44 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Thanks again Hpasp and if you don't mind, a few questions more :-)

W panel:
- two microamperemeters in the middle and associated switches? I suppose it has something to do with positioning of 5N62 in both axes.
- in the upper left two switches KONTROL K1V and K2V

A panel
- PEREDACA/PRIKEM switch
- BYSTRO/MEDLENNO switch
- ZAPROS VKL. light
- KONTR. OPOZN. button
- ZAPROS button
- OPOZNA... (TOCNO, GRUBO, IMIT.) switch

S panel
- BYBOR D...PAZON V switch (all these are for jamming targets?)
- +- + switch
- PU light
- VKL POISK V switch
- PEREZACHVAT V
- PU GRUBO

Z panel
switches and lights around ZACHVAT CELI GSN switch (not launch and prepare buttons)

X panel
- AVTOMAT VKL. and VYKL. buttons (IADS target selection?)
- 4' 8' N switch left to AVTOMAT
- 4' 8' switch right to AVTOMAT
- KONTR. RAZRESEN. switch and light

C panel
- row of switches and lights in the row in the middle of the screen (around PROLONG. light and VYKL. switch)
- the lowest row - UPR. R0, USTANOVKA NULJA, Vsr.(?) and the covered switch on the right with a description of VYKL. (under 55 button)

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#3569896 - 05/09/12 08:48 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Architrav]
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Originally Posted By: Architrav
Speaking of new systems - It looks like the SA-6 "Kub" system is nearing the end of its life cycle, Russia only uses it as a training simulator anymore.
Is there any perspective of Hungary phasing their systems out in the coming years so they can be used for the simulator?


yep
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#3569898 - 05/09/12 09:00 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Architrav]
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Originally Posted By: Architrav
Speaking of new systems - It looks like the SA-6 "Kub" system is nearing the end of its life cycle, Russia only uses it as a training simulator anymore.
Is there any perspective of Hungary phasing their systems out in the coming years so they can be used for the simulator?


i remember dear architrav.... this your question ... looks like my question from mr.hp....

mr.hp said : this system is stiil in activate ....! know body knows when this sam system is done

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#3569901 - 05/09/12 09:04 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]
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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
Thanks again Hpasp and if you don't mind, a few questions more :-)

W panel:
- two microamperemeters in the middle and associated switches? I suppose it has something to do with positioning of 5N62 in both axes.
- in the upper left two switches KONTROL K1V and K2V

A panel
- PEREDACA/PRIKEM switch
- BYSTRO/MEDLENNO switch
- ZAPROS VKL. light
- KONTR. OPOZN. button
- ZAPROS button
- OPOZNA... (TOCNO, GRUBO, IMIT.) switch


The last 4 is the IFF control.

Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd

S panel
- BYBOR D...PAZON V switch (all these are for jamming targets?)
- +- + switch
- PU light
- VKL POISK V switch
- PEREZACHVAT V
- PU GRUBO


The RPC is capable of a limited TWS function.
(nice achievement from a CW radar)
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Not simulated yet, but possible option for the future.
(I cannot see the scenario, when this would be useful)

Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd

Z panel
switches and lights around ZACHVAT CELI GSN switch (not launch and prepare buttons)



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All these lights are working, and should be used!
Which one did you forgot comrade?

Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd


X panel
- AVTOMAT VKL. and VYKL. buttons (IADS target selection?)
- 4' 8' N switch left to AVTOMAT
- 4' 8' switch right to AVTOMAT


jawdrop
All these switches are working, and should be used!
Which one did you forgot comrade?

Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd

C panel
- row of switches and lights in the row in the middle of the screen (around PROLONG. light and VYKL. switch)
- the lowest row - UPR. R0, USTANOVKA NULJA, Vsr.(?) and covered switch on the right with a description of VYKL. (under 55 button)


jawdrop
Most of these switches are working, and should be used!
Which one did you forgot comrade?

Ufff...
dizzy

... please ask switches and lights one-by-one to be able to answer in details.
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Edited by Hpasp (05/09/12 09:12 AM)
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#3569904 - 05/09/12 09:15 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Thanks, but:
W panel? two first switches of A panel?

How the TWS works with 5N62? I graduated at university from electrical measurement, so I will understand it :-)

Z panel: I mean switches OTHER than ZACHVAT CELI GSN, launch buttons and prepare buttons, they seem not to work.

X: panel these do not work from me, they have no effect. Maybe it is caused by absence of IADS? Should I try an IADS enabled scenario?

C: panel, again the switches OTHER than PROLONG. light nad VYKL. button. They do not react.
The same applies for USTANOVKA NULJA, Vs.r. and the covered button. I found the UPR R0 switches to normal state instead of nonius.

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