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#3197652 - 02/03/11 12:26 PM What is your dream space sim?
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So what is everyone's dream for the perfect space sim?

I am not sure exactly what the perfect sim would be for me but there is one thing that always causes me to get tired of a sim. To me the one most important thing is that I want to play a character not a ship. I want a Silent Hunter 5 of the stars if you will. I want to walk around my ship in real time telling the crew what to do and then watch them do it. I am sick of all these games where you pilot a ship but for all intents and purposes you are the ship. It would be even better with coop where you could have 16 people all on the same ship doing different tasks to accomplish the mission.

What about everyone else? What would your perfect sim be? If that is too hard of a question then what is the most important aspect of a space sim for you?
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#3197666 - 02/03/11 12:37 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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I'm really very simple when it comes to this.

All I want is "Klingon Academy" with updated DX 11 graphics and "Tie Fighter" with updated DX11 graphics. Oh and I want full MP Cooperative support for both. I'd pay good money for those.


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#3197764 - 02/03/11 02:25 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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If we could combine...
--Independence War 2 in general, missions, combat, movement and navigation as the foundation
--Evochon's gateless travel, open universe and planetfall
--X3:TC's look, mood, management options and especially presentation
--Parkan 2's ability to board an enemy ship and attack as an FPS (forgot I even had that one!)
--Mass Effect 2 for character interaction, storyline, voice acting, ground combat & locations, peripheral characters and in-ship movement
--Equally playable with flightstick/kb or kb/m if you want.
--Single player campaign/open universe and seemless co-op, of course.

...it would be a dream game to end all games.
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#3197786 - 02/03/11 02:49 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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Stargate

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#3197793 - 02/03/11 02:55 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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Falcon 4.0 with space ships.
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#3197804 - 02/03/11 03:13 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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Falcon 4 with space ships.
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#3197834 - 02/03/11 03:40 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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Starshatter TGS is sort of like that, it's even as buggy as F4 was when it came out.
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#3197848 - 02/03/11 04:01 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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To me the one most important thing is that I want to play a character not a ship.



One of the more immersive game-playing experiences from my youth:


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#3198281 - 02/04/11 04:43 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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Ah Lev Arris, the first time I came across Clive Owen was in this, I really like his acting and have enjoyed his other films. Loved playing Priviteer 2 it was like Elite but with better character developement. Yep something along the lines of this with up-to-date graphics/sound.
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#3198533 - 02/04/11 08:48 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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Id Love to see stargate as well. Such an awesome franchise
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#3198575 - 02/04/11 09:38 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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My dream space sims:

DCS: X-Wing*

Lock On: LTAIAGFFAC (Long Time Ago In A Galaxy Far Far Away Combat)
- Flyable starcraft: RZ-1 A-Wing, T-64 X-Wing, Z95 Headhunter, BTL Y-Wing, TIE/LN Fighter, TIE Advanced, TIE Bomber

S-Foils Over Endor

Red Pill: Space Warfare

*I'd enjoy DCS: Consitution, as well, but the crew AI better be believable


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#3198708 - 02/04/11 12:02 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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#3198739 - 02/04/11 12:32 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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Tie fighters redo with a few new missons

A B-5 sim with real space flight.
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#3198742 - 02/04/11 12:33 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Navigator]
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Originally Posted By: Navigator

A B-5 sim with real space flight.
That would be great. And I'd like it to include flyable capital ships and fighters.
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#3198808 - 02/04/11 01:28 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: sinner6]
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Raw Kryptonite, Derek Smart already made the game you seek!


LOL
My monitor is all covered in sarcasm now!

Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted By: Navigator

A B-5 sim with real space flight.
That would be great. And I'd like it to include flyable capital ships and fighters.


Yeah, that would be sweet. B5 had some great ship battles. Love to see a ship sliced in half when it's completely outclassed. LOL
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#3198809 - 02/04/11 01:29 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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Love to see a ship sliced in half when it's completely outclassed. LOL
Some tricky game-balancing would need to be done if the Shadow ships are allowed.
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#3198844 - 02/04/11 01:57 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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Originally Posted By: Raw Kryptonite
If we could combine...
--Independence War 2 in general, missions, combat, movement and navigation as the foundation
--Evochon's gateless travel, open universe and planetfall
--X3:TC's look, mood, management options and especially presentation
--Parkan 2's ability to board an enemy ship and attack as an FPS (forgot I even had that one!)
--Mass Effect 2 for character interaction, storyline, voice acting, ground combat & locations, peripheral characters and in-ship movement
--Equally playable with flightstick/kb or kb/m if you want.
--Single player campaign/open universe and seemless co-op, of course.

...it would be a dream game to end all games.

What he said
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#3199850 - 02/05/11 07:03 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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Originally Posted By: Raw Kryptonite
If we could combine...
--Independence War 2 in general, missions, combat, movement and navigation as the foundation
--Evochon's gateless travel, open universe and planetfall
--X3:TC's look, mood, management options and especially presentation
--Parkan 2's ability to board an enemy ship and attack as an FPS (forgot I even had that one!)
--Mass Effect 2 for character interaction, storyline, voice acting, ground combat & locations, peripheral characters and in-ship movement
--Equally playable with flightstick/kb or kb/m if you want.
--Single player campaign/open universe and seemless co-op, of course.

...it would be a dream game to end all games.


Add in Bridge Commander to the mix and I'd settle for that
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#3199890 - 02/05/11 08:10 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Falstar]
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Stargate

fps in jungles, pyrimids, spacestations, etc. Flyable 301s, Darts, Daughtaless(sp), etc.


Stargate Worlds.

I Actually have a Copy of the Never Released "Stargate SG1 : The Alliance" First Person Shooter, Never Published (License Dispute), but press copies went out :p

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/stargate-sg-1-the-alliance/1520


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#3200049 - 02/06/11 05:17 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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Love to see a ship sliced in half when it's completely outclassed. LOL
Some tricky game-balancing would need to be done if the Shadow ships are allowed.



Shadow and Vorlon ships would have to be a non flyable AI ship only.
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#3200057 - 02/06/11 05:30 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Navigator]
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Shadow and Vorlon ships would have to be a non flyable AI ship only.
Agreed. Those ships require entire Minbari and Earth Alliance fleets to bring down!
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#3200064 - 02/06/11 05:37 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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I'm easy to please.

I want re-makes of X-Wing and Tie Fighter with today's graphics. Quite simple, really.

The real question is: WHY HASN'T THIS BEEN DONE ALREADY?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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#3200066 - 02/06/11 05:41 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: LeemzHQ]
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The real question is: WHY HASN'T THIS BEEN DONE ALREADY?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Obviously not a priority for Lucasarts. They're too busy making console games. Grrr...
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#3200081 - 02/06/11 06:10 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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I would love to see a game where you can seamlessly leave space and go planetside to destroy/interact with stuff.
Thinking about it,didn't Derek Smart do this? I tried to play Battlecruiser 3000AD but gave up after so much disappointment.
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#3200213 - 02/06/11 09:26 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Chucky]
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I would love to see a game where you can seamlessly leave space and go planetside to destroy/interact with stuff.
Since it's SF, I would love them to be domed cities (Caves of Steel, Red Mars) and the outside just nature and farms.

As for jungle, imagining being able to fly over a green closed jungle canopy. But if it would happen that from engine failure or enemy fire one would crash there, you could have 20 seconds of blackout (but maybe still sounds?). After that you would wake up under the canopy in your craft and leaving it, you would be a Crysis like world. No clue if switching engines is needed or if just the environment that would need to be loaded.

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#3200215 - 02/06/11 09:29 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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Evochron does that. There's some other game that does it too, other than the "Smart" games. Can't remember what it was though.

LucasArts has been re-releasing reworked older games, but they didn't get around to the good ones yet. Was hoping for Roque Squadron, Grim Fandango etc, but instead we got Monkey Island. Ugh.
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#3200216 - 02/06/11 09:31 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
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Shadow and Vorlon ships would have to be a non flyable AI ship only.
Agreed. Those ships require entire Minbari and Earth Alliance fleets to bring down!


Sure would be fun wouldn't it? Perfect boss battle missions to get a group together for. Some cases accomplish a mission and simply get outta there before they jump you. Every so long they amass to attack, then disappear beyond the rim...come back, attack...perfect for a big space based MMO.
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#3200221 - 02/06/11 09:36 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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but instead we got Monkey Island. Ugh.
Did they actually update the graphics or was it just made compatible with current hardware and Windows 7?
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#3200224 - 02/06/11 09:40 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Originally Posted By: Raw Kryptonite
but instead we got Monkey Island. Ugh.
Did they actually update the graphics or was it just made compatible with current hardware and Windows 7?


Yeah,they updated the graphics.In fact you could switch between the 2 on the fly.Didn't make it any better for me though.I guess adventures just aren't my thing.
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#3200367 - 02/06/11 12:39 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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A sim with the trench run with updated graphics.

Or an updated Starlancer with more missions.

Or the actual release of Diaspora.
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#3200369 - 02/06/11 12:41 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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Evochron does that.


Thanks for that mention.I am just trying out the demo.Looks quite good.
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#3200436 - 02/06/11 01:54 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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Still trying to remember the other one with planetfall. Should have a link somewhere around here.
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#3200488 - 02/06/11 02:35 PM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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#3204257 - 02/10/11 10:23 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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Star Wars with a dynamic campaign that allows me to fly for the evil Empire, must have excellent graphics that run smooth and good sound engine.
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#3204260 - 02/10/11 10:26 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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The real question is: WHY HASN'T THIS BEEN DONE ALREADY?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Obviously not a priority for Lucasarts. They're too busy making console games. Grrr...


But that game would make a perfect console game so I don't understand the neglect either.
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#3204296 - 02/10/11 10:51 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: mutt]
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But that game would make a perfect console game so I don't understand the neglect either.
LA has gone through so many leadership and business strategy changes the past 5 years that I don't think anyone who works outside of LA would really understand either.
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#3205015 - 02/11/11 04:53 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: EinsteinEP]
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My dream space sims:

DCS: X-Wing*

Lock On: LTAIAGFFAC (Long Time Ago In A Galaxy Far Far Away Combat)
- Flyable starcraft: RZ-1 A-Wing, T-64 X-Wing, Z95 Headhunter, BTL Y-Wing, TIE/LN Fighter, TIE Advanced, TIE Bomber

S-Foils Over Endor

Red Pill: Space Warfare

*I'd enjoy DCS: Consitution, as well, but the crew AI better be believable

:
I like very much this, but even if i'm also a fan of X-wing and Tie Fighter, i would prefer DCS ROBOTECH: Veritech





Since i'm a kid i want a Robtech simulator, where you can fight on the planet, on space, and inside ships.
With battles with thousands of fighters and ships, and a storyline driven similar to Descent Freespace 2.


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#3216916 - 02/24/11 02:17 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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Still trying to remember the other one with planetfall. Should have a link somewhere around here.


FFE D3D
http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/FFE_D3D

Pioneer (remake Frontier Elite II)
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#3216977 - 02/24/11 04:31 AM Re: What is your dream space sim? [Re: Master]
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If somehow you could take Eve online's visuals, combine it with the up close and personal dogfights in IL2 and set it all in Peter F Hamilton's Night's Dawn universe, I'd be in SCI-FI heaven.
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