Greetings to all.

After so many testing hours in Kali with all that supported this project,
this is the version 1.0 of the guide. Some things remains, but that's v2.0.

Once again i want to thank all of you out there for your support
in this, as i assume this guide not mine, but ours. Thank you all.

Multiplayer Guide

An excellent work, very usefull for Comanche Gold fans.
I wish to you let your idea about Comanhe Gold FAN CLUB come true
in future for all who cares of this game.

ufo

This is not entirely correct.

• You don't need to update to play via the Lobby. It works just fine.
• Updating can and should be disabled and ignored, or else redirected to a custom server for custom updates. (The former is preferable for now.)
• There are alternatives to the Lobby.
  • As already known, Kali does IPX for us.
  • A tool of mine allows the game to do join-by-IP for TCP/IP sessions.

As a programmer, I will state it's not likely to happen.

• Connecting via IPX over the Internet is simply asking for an IPX tunnel over TCP/IP. This already exists in the form of Kali and other such programs.
• LAN via IP? If you want a VPN, there is Hamachi.
• Join-by-IP, but lack of a LAN option, is already completely possible and has been done.
• Capping a connection is probably not going to be a popular idea.
• TCP/IP problems thus far are user-related:
  • Players here have trouble when it comes to opening and forwarding traffic on, if necessary, the proper ports.
  • If players understood their own network better, we'd be able to have TCP/IP sessions all of the time after meeting elsewhere, such as on TS3 or some other waypoint.
  • Switching to using TCP/IP would allow Windows 7 users to play multiplayer online natively, without the need for any go-between software.

It's not likely a programmer will put this much work into it given the above, but I'm certainly not saying it's impossible. I'm just trying to make some suggestions given the reality of our situation.

So many times i tried, and only as a CLIENT (from in game multiplayer menu) i could see my server.
But, exactly after 1 minute it just dissappear's. Who can see, click and join an invissible server of mine?
Maybe in your continent there are "other rules" than mine. And thats a fact.
f.e. I watch CNN, but not your local CNN. And the oppossite.

Read the last page (What's next, An example) of the Multiplayer Guide.

If i knew in which tool you are refering to and if i had test it, it will be included allready in this guide.

"Ability to connect each player’s IPX local LAN via IP for Host and Join purpoces." Not just "LAN" in general. Only the IPX activity that game uses.
As for Hamachi read again the last page (What's next) of the Multiplayer Guide. As for VPN, i dont like to make my local LAN an Air Traffic Control Tower. Small tools can help to play just an old IPX game.

"..and has been done". There are many people that they will be interesting about this.

I agree as for the TS3, it will be usefull even as a small club (at first). As for the 1st line, maybe you can write and offer a step-by-step guide to help others to understand better.

By the way, whatever i knew,
or whatever new i have learned,
i gave it to the others by this guide.
Hope others do the same.
If they do, our overall situation will be improve.

I have a hard time believing Novalogic went to great lengths to break lobbies in Greece only.

Nevertheless, games do disappear from the list. It appears only to allow you to host and join for prearranged games. It doesn't operate as a full-fledged, modern service with live games being shown. You still need a waypoint to meet up with other players.



Having the tool wouldn't have made a difference. The tool simply allows a player either to host or else to attempt to join a session at a specified IP address. We failed to connect our games via TCP/IP when you and I tried it earlier. The tool won't make the connection work; it just lets us bypass the Lobby. Once Flyboy and I both guaranteed we had the correct settings, we managed to play just fine, and if I recall correctly, he was on Windows 7 -- not on Windows XP.

See this topic for some more details, but be sure to read all of my posts, since my first one appeared to have some inaccuracies.



I'm not about to write a guide to open ports on -- and forward traffic through -- every single router and firewall known to man. There are just too many possibilities. You have to remember, this is complicated by people running multiple layers of protection. First they may have a router, and then secondly that router may have a firewall. To top it off, if they are using Windows 7, they probably have the firewall on it running, too, which requires granting permissions to applications.

In short, it's a mess.

Now with that said, if someone wants instructions for their particular router or firewall, I might be able to offer limited assistance with the understanding that it's their responsibility to configure their own devices.



I'll probably be releasing some items later on after I get things a little more finalized.

Originally Posted By: DavidC99
A tool of mine allows the game to do join-by-IP for TCP/IP sessions.

Originally Posted By: ADHS
If i knew in which tool you are refering to and if i had test it, it will be included allready in this guide.

Originally Posted By: DavidC99
Having the tool wouldn't have made a difference. The tool simply allows a player either to host or else to attempt to join a session at a specified IP address. We failed to connect our games via TCP/IP when you and I tried it earlier. The tool won't make the connection work; it just lets us bypass the Lobby. Once Flyboy and I both guaranteed we had the correct settings, we managed to play just fine, and if I recall correctly, he was on Windows 7 -- not on Windows XP.
See this topic for some more details, but be sure to read all of my posts, since my first one appeared to have some inaccuracies.

So you are refering to a tool that works only in Windows 7.
No matter the OS i think it is a must the community to have it.
Is it free or have to pay ?

(In our test you didnt tell me to use any tool. We just tried to connect.)

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Originally Posted By: DavidC99
This is not entirely correct.
You don't need to update to play via the Lobby. It works just fine.

Originally Posted By: ADHS
So many times i tried, and only as a CLIENT (from in game multiplayer menu) i could see my server.
But, exactly after 1 minute it just dissappear's. Who can see, click and join an invissible server of mine?
Maybe in your continent there are "other rules" than mine. And thats a fact.
f.e. I watch CNN, but not your local CNN. And the oppossite.

Originally Posted By: DavidC99
I have a hard time believing Novalogic went to great lengths to break lobbies in Greece only. rolleyes
Nevertheless, games do disappear from the list. It appears only to allow you to host and join for prearranged games.
It doesn't operate as a full-fledged, modern service with live games being shown. You still need a waypoint to meet up with other players.

In this guide, i have set in details what i get in Lobby. Also,
the official support anouncement for this issue from Novalogic.
For your comment about the guide, (point = if someone can or not play through Novaworld's Lobby)
and as a conclusion to our previus dialogos for someone who read all this what will be ? and how ?

No, it works for XP, too.



Free. I wrote it.



Of course. Having the tool wouldn't have made a difference, so I didn't offer it to you. The game doesn't care whether you use the Lobby or my tool, as it probably doesn't even distinguish a difference. Most of the time, if you can't connect via the Lobby, you can't connect via my tool. There is at least one or two exceptions to this rule, hence why I wrote it.

Had we connected via the Lobby, then you might have had a reason to test the tool.



If I understand your questions, here are some important points:

• Using the Lobby is one way to see if you can connect to someone via TCP/IP. (ie. Open ports for both players.)
• Updating for the game should be disabled, or else a new server should be provided which supplies the game with custom updates.
• The tool simply replaces the need for using the Lobby for both hosting a game and joining one.
• The tool doesn't detect games or place itself on a list. It either hosts without announcing itself, or else it tries to join a session at the supplied IP address.
• Technically, I might be able to have the tool maintain a list of game sessions going on live, like the Lobby does but hopefully without sessions disappearing, at a later time if someone has a server for the community to use.
• The tool may be released shortly.
• Your desire to find IPX tunnel software in order to solve any overhead added by Kali could possibly be beat in performance simply by using TCP/IP natively.
• Using TCP/IP allows Windows 7 players to play multiplayer, as long as one Windows XP player with the CD is playing (that is, until we fix the Windows 7 issue in singleplayer, which I would like to correct and patch soon).
• I have only tested TCP/IP with only two players maximum at a time, though. I would like to try more than a two player game to see if this works.
• In order to test this, players must ensure they open the specified ports and grant the necessary permissions.
• So far, only Flyboy and myself have opened the correct ports and guaranteed that we can play together.
• Once the community figures out TCP/IP, we can ditch Kali, if we choose, and operate with a new waypoint, such as at SimHQ TS3 server or whatever else.

Hello ,


I am one of the many and main flyers that put together comanche fest in Arizona. We are currently meeting in Kali lobby every evening . We are currently trying to put together a group of flyers and maybe try to revive the game since it has always been the greatest game ever for us. If you guys are up to it and would like a challenge meet us in Kali to enjoy what comanche gold has to offer, You will not be disappointed. Roster (alpha , rattlesnake, m@ko , bong ) and waiting for a few old flyers, We will be happy for any one that would like to join us. if you like more information email me at gportal.ath.cx@gmail.com

alpha check your email.
susanexpress1 thank you very much.

What do you call 'evening'? What is your time zone difference (GMT+/-)?

One of your buddies, 'rattlesnake', e-mailed me asking about what router settings he need to alter to be able to join CG in Kali. He hasn't replied yet so what's the latest there?



Who is susanexpress1?