The 2 seaters will be more attractive if there's unique game modes connected to them.

- Photo recon doesn't sound too hard to implement, take pics of the terrain from a certain hight, return to base and review them. Mission success, medals etc for taking the correct pics at the right hight.

- Arty ranging could work using a clickable icon on screen, watch the hits on the ground and tell the battery to adjust depending on the hits. Mission success, medals etc depending on number oh hits, target value.

Trying to complete these missions while fending off enemy scouts or strings of flaming onions would be quite immersive I think.

- Throwable weapons Ground attack 2 seaters could have throwable grenades to lob over the side from the observers position, German crews were quite keen on their potato mashers apparently.

All this stuff requires extra programming of course.....

I like the way RoF has a broad spectrum of planes. I'm interested in the "big name" birds that were historically important. So, I'm one of those guys more pleased by the inclusion of the DH2 and Eindecker then by the fact that the D7 has both the early and F version.

Does the wider history range mean there's a lot of "missing" planes from the late war? Sure, but if I have to pick, I want to have a chance to fly wildly different aircraft, just to get a feeling for that "what was it like?". The first time I fought in an E3, I was totally like "ZMOG, I knew on an intellectual level how fragile and underpowered these were...but!"

I'm with MouseOne. I'm very glad that the sim has the broad range of historical workhorses. If I were to criticize the inclusion of any scout, it would be of course the Fokker D.VIII, due to its lack of historical significance, but I'm not seriously complaining about it. I love the D.H.2, E.III, Nieuport 17, and other early war crap planes.

What Moster said... If Arty Ops and Photo Work could be simulated, I'd be flying a two-seater.

I like the grenades as an idea. Any aircraft with a reasonable sized cockpit should be able to carry a few (like flares - but in the armament screen).

Agreed...I absolutly adore the older machines. I'll happily take the N11,DH-2, or Eindecker since fighting in them means that energy management is the critical factor. Unlike the late war turn fighters that so often get into endless round and round fights, you pretty much have to get into vertical maneuvers in the older ones. Sure, they're slow and primitive and short on power, but that makes for a more cerebral combat experience. The more early planes that come along, the happier I'll be! While I enjoy the more capable planes I'm happy to leave most of the combat in them to the adrenaline junkies.

Oh...and I'm sure looking forward to the Gotha to go with the HP. I know you don't like large planes, Josh, but flying it is again more like playing chess in having to think ahead and plan your moves in it. I'm loving the ways this sim's evolution is going.

=MFC=Gunloon

I'd like to keep it to aircraft were references suggest they were used.

Late war German army co-op 2 seater crews are recorded as taking throwable grenades with them, even to the point of overloading the aircraft. It'd make a nice unique feature for the CL ground attack planes. I'm not too sure about the Entente side, fighter bomber single seaters seem to have been used more.

You could not be more wrong about what drives ROF.

Jason

And you couldn't be more wrong as well. Two-seaters have not been sold simply because we did not have the support built for them. Plain and simple. Now we do, so we will build them. And you are also wrong about building planes that were good for MP.

And the polls people post in our forum are not in any way an accurate representation of anything.

Jason

Listen, RS_Colonel has a visceral hatred for the whole basic way that RoF works, he's just in here to badmouth the sim as he best can, don't bother with him...