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#2888342 - 10/26/09 04:27 PM Out of Copyright Material *****
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Hi Guys.

I don't know how many people would be interested in these, but recently, on a forum I frequent, a number of books dating from the early years of the last century have been posted.

They seem to be taken from the US Congress Library, and have been scanned by Microsoft, for public, none commercial use.

Some of the titles:

Germany's fighting machine her army, her navy, her air-ships, and why she arrayed them against the allied powers of Europe.
Ernest F. Henderson
The Bobbs-Merrill Co. 1914.
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/appawdm16

New American navy Vol.1
John D. Long
The Outlook Company. New York, 1903.
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/kg1ap8a8p

All about ships, With four colour plates and a large number of drawings and photographs
Taprel Dorling
Cassel & Co., Ltd. 1912.
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/klwgqh49o

The modern warship
Edward L. Attwood
Cambridge University Press. 1913
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/rmiya2x03

The Curtiss aviation book
Glenn Hammond Curtiss
N.Y., Frederick A. Stokes Co. 1912
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/1cfxlc3lp

Manual of military aviation
Hollis Leroy Muller
George Banta Publishing Co. 1917
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/lu7mcixqw

Seagoing and other concrete ships
Nicolay Knudtzon Fougner
London, H. Frowde and Hodder & Stoughton. 1922
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/8gnnx90r4

German Anti-aircraft Artillery (Special Series No. 10)
US War Dept
US War Dept. 1943
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/1zuahvo7j

FM 30-42 Identification of Foreign Armored Vehicles, German, Japanese, Russian, and Italian 1942
US War Dept
US War Dept. 1942
http://depositfiles.com/files/te02wt1qh

The Imperial Japanes NAVY
Fred T. Jane
london W. THACKER & CO. 1904
http://depositfiles.com/files/6ujp8mfvt

The British NAVY from within
Hodder and Stoughton
Hodder & Stoughton. 1915
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/ca9ao2pg6

Notes on anti-aircraft guns
H.L.Scott (Major General, Chief of Staff)
War Department. 1917
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/r8t1go9j3

The American Battleship in Commission as Seen by an Enlisted Man
Thomas Beyer
Army & Navy Register. 1906
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/wu040b5dn

Foreign aircraft industry and aircraft in 1940 [in Russian]
1940
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/rz8y08q76

Taschenbuch der Kriegsflotten. 1904 [in German]
Bruno Weyer
München. J.F.Lehmann's Verlag.
http://depositfiles.com/files/89lwr71sh

Steam-Ships and Their Story. The story of their development to the present day
R. A. Fletcher
J.B.Lippincott Co. / Sidgwick & Jackson, Ltd. 1910
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/0h8rxf7mt

If there are no objections, and interest in these books, I'll post some links.


Edited by Col. Gibbon (12/19/11 06:23 PM)
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#2888371 - 10/26/09 05:02 PM Re: Out of copyright books [Re: Col. Gibbon]
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I find stuff like that fascinating! Would love to get copies, now they are in the public domain....
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#2888386 - 10/26/09 05:30 PM Re: Out of copyright books [Re: Crashin' Jack]
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Yes, they are facinating.

I've got the Manual of military aviation, and one paragraph that stood out for me was:

Quote:
The first big improvement in aircraft design came as the result
of work by aeronautical engineers who demonstrated the powerful
influence of streamline form on the efficiency of the airplane.
Laboratory work proved that for every pound of head resistance
eliminated, nearly ten pounds more weight could be carried. In
attest of this, old types of airplanes stand out in sharp contrast
with the smooth, rounded, streamline craft of today.


"Today" of course is 1917!
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#2888404 - 10/26/09 06:10 PM Re: Out of copyright books [Re: Col. Gibbon]
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LOL, and "old" types must have been what, 1914? 1915?

Airplanes seemed to advance in those days as quickly as computers do in our time....
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#2888406 - 10/26/09 06:19 PM Re: Out of copyright books [Re: Crashin' Jack]
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I wonder what he would have made of Concorde, 50 years later. eek
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#2888543 - 10/26/09 10:10 PM Re: Out of copyright books [Re: Col. Gibbon]
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There was an old Twilight Zone that did just that....
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#2888648 - 10/27/09 02:57 AM Re: Out of copyright books [Re: Crashin' Jack]
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Originally Posted By: Crashin' Jack
There was an old Twilight Zone that did just that....

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#2888668 - 10/27/09 04:53 AM Re: Out of copyright books [Re: wheelsup_cavu]
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Just watched it, phantastic. smile
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#2888676 - 10/27/09 05:39 AM Re: Out of copyright books [Re: Knegel]
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Please do post links, Colonel.

In regard to the 1917 quote:
Quote:
The first big improvement in aircraft design came as the result
of work by aeronautical engineers who demonstrated the powerful
influence of streamline form on the efficiency of the airplane.

I have read that the Wright Brothers built their own wind tunnel with small-scale models before their first flight. It measured drag and lift.
One finding was that the propeller is just another wing--going in a circle--and so needs attention to its streamline shape.

The Wrights preferred wing-warping for control of their "Flyer" after experimenting with twisting a long box. Others discovered that separate hinged panels for such things as 'ailerons' worked better.
The Wrights' experience as bicycle mechanics helped them enormously in working out the mechanical connections.
But they made their own engine!

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I believe it was German engineers who used wind tunnels to discover 'laminar flow'--the tendency of air to cling close to the aircraft surface. That's why you can't blow the dust completely off your car by driving fast. It's like "laminated" wood--there are layers of air, and the bottom one sticks.
Any disturbance or breaking of this smooth flow adds drag.
Rivets with round heads sticking up are an example of flow disturbance. The Bf-109 put the theory to use (I don't know that it was the first such aircraft to use laminar flow techniques, however).

There was much international visiting among engineers before the coming 2nd World War put a stop to that.
The P-51 Mustang is a production example of an American engineer who visited German aircraft factories pre-war, putting the new 'laminar' ideas to very good use.
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Kind of off-topic:
If you sharply cut off the rear part just right, the air continues to flow as though a 'tapered' tail is still there. This discovery was mostly used in cars rather than aircraft. Especially race cars.
You can see many "Kammbacks" around you on the highway today. Almost every car has some version.
German aerodynamics engineers Baron Reinhard von Koenig-Fachsenfeld and Wunibald Kamm of Germany discovered the effect. They produced this low-drag "Kamm"-tailed prototype in 1944.

The American-made "Gremlin" and the 1962 Ferrari 350 GTO are other examples of Kammbacks.


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#2888715 - 10/27/09 07:44 AM Re: Out of copyright books [Re: Wudpecker]
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links added.
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