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#3154690 - 12/10/10 10:33 PM New Release Date Update  
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See over here at the Aerosoft forums for the new release dates and also a change in the first release content.

http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?showtopic=41424&st=0&gopid=275349&#entry275349


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#3154912 - 12/11/10 09:57 AM Re: New Release Date Update [Re: SC/JG_Oesau]  
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Excellent, can't wait to get my paws on it. Wish they'd done the Mirage in the first release, but such is life. Regardless I'll be getting it tomcat

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#3155121 - 12/11/10 07:30 PM Re: New Release Date Update [Re: SC/JG_Oesau]  
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I was beginning to wonder about this title.

I can understand the push back, I just wish publishers would be more realistic with their release dates. Did anyone really think we'd be playing this before 2011?

Also, the prices on the site are posted as: 22.63 (27.95), I'm assuming that's a typo, and the parentheses are supposed to be US $?


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#3155140 - 12/11/10 08:16 PM Re: New Release Date Update [Re: SC/JG_Oesau]  
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Yes,please could you clarify the price in dollar?

#3155151 - 12/11/10 08:51 PM Re: New Release Date Update [Re: SC/JG_Oesau]  
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Well, I have to admit to being just a little bit disappointed. For some reason I thought we would have the full sim very soon. One question, though. The initial release is called, "Ground Attack." No A to A at all? We will not have Argentinian jets in the sim, even as AI?
Was thinking that it was going to be something along the lines of Rise Of Flight. They'd be there, but you could only fly against them. Next release you get the fly one or two. Final release, all airplanes are available.
Was all my own wishful thinking, I guess. Still, it does put a damper on my enthusiasm a bit.


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#3155165 - 12/11/10 09:27 PM Re: New Release Date Update [Re: SC/JG_Oesau]  
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Originally Posted By: Pooch
Well, I have to admit to being just a little bit disappointed. For some reason I thought we would have the full sim very soon. One question, though. The initial release is called, "Ground Attack." No A to A at all? We will not have Argentinian jets in the sim, even as AI?
Was thinking that it was going to be something along the lines of Rise Of Flight. They'd be there, but you could only fly against them. Next release you get the fly one or two. Final release, all airplanes are available.
Was all my own wishful thinking, I guess. Still, it does put a damper on my enthusiasm a bit.


Hi Pooch - the release was always (since the Aerosoft announcement) going to be a stages released. The change with this latest announcement is that it's going to be the Jan 2011 instead of Dec 2010 and that the Pucura is now included (it was only going to be the Gr.3)


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#3155180 - 12/11/10 09:51 PM Re: New Release Date Update [Re: SC/JG_Oesau]  
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Oh yeah. I understood about releasing it in stages. Just thought we'd have it all way before next September. And wasn't expecting to be able to do nothing but drop bombs 'til June. I thought that, even with the first release, , we'd be doing some air to air fighting with that beautiful Harrier. Just going to have to be patient, that's all.


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#3155217 - 12/11/10 11:14 PM Re: New Release Date Update [Re: SC/JG_Oesau]  
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I get an error when I try to click onto the link.

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#3155232 - 12/12/10 12:24 AM Re: New Release Date Update [Re: SC/JG_Oesau]  
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Um, wasn't the harrier used as an A2A plane? I thought that was part of the challenge for the Royal Navy pilots, was they were shoe-horned into a role their plane wasn't built for.

And I doubt we'll see a total release by sept. If we're lucky, there will be only one more push back of the initial release. Chances are that the release will highlight a number of bugs across various system configurations, and the dev team will probably spend a quarter to a half year patching the game up to spec. After that, development will resume work on the expansions. My guess is that by this time next year, we'll be about half way to the final release of this product.

The publishers might very well know/expect this to be the timeline, but if they told everyone the real deal, people would mentally "check out" of interest in the game until it hits shelves(this is my personal attitude toward storm of war, I've grown a little weary of week after week of nothing but tease). The alternative is they are foolishly optimistic, which is a bad way to run a business...

None of these are complaints by the way, just my own managed expectations.

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#3155233 - 12/12/10 12:25 AM Re: New Release Date Update [Re: SC/JG_Oesau]  
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And wasn't expecting to be able to do nothing but drop bombs 'til June. I thought that, even with the first release, , we'd be doing some air to air fighting with that beautiful Harrier. Just going to have to be patient, that's all.


Don't worry, Pooch, you'll have dome dogfights against Daggers, Skyhawks and Pucaras even flying the ground attack Harrier. It's been discussed here before, and it was agreed to not go 100% historical (just 90% ;)) which means that you're going happy in your strike package to drop some CBUs in argentinean arty positions, but sudden you see a pair of delta-winged shapes. What you do? You jettison your CBUs and.. you're in a Harrier, don't try to run away from a Mirage or Dagger! ...and you must prepare to dogfight with 30mm Adens. It could be another strike package of Daggers which will do exactly the same (jettison the bombs and get into defensive BFM), or... it may be Mirage IIIs with air-to-air ordnance being vectored to intercept your flight!

We even discussed how the AIM-9 Sidewinder should work in the Gr.3 - in IvanK's words: "RAF GR3's had absolutely no Software mods from a display point of view to employ the AIM9. All that was done was to fit a launcher rail. Provide a cooling switch for he pilot to turn on seeker cooling, and make provision for Aim9 tone to be heard in the pilots headphones. No additional HUD symbology was provided. A pickle button would fire the selected AIM9. In the case of the GR3 the AIM9's were only usable in Boresight mode."

So, in the loadout screen, you can simply arm your Gr.3 with Sidewinders and go Helicopter or Pucara hunting instead of obeying mission orders. wink Or you can *create* such missions (even against Daggers and Skyhawks) using the standalone mission editor which will be provided as well.

#3155291 - 12/12/10 03:46 AM Re: New Release Date Update [Re: SC/JG_Oesau]  
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Ah, well. That's promising. Don't mind air to ground missions, but ya' just gotta shoot something down , every now and then.


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#3155343 - 12/12/10 09:05 AM Re: New Release Date Update [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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Originally Posted By: aggressorblue

Also, the prices on the site are posted as: 22.63 (27.95), I'm assuming that's a typo, and the parentheses are supposed to be US $?


Usually, such prices given by Aerosoft are without and with VAT.

#3155796 - 12/13/10 03:33 AM Re: New Release Date Update [Re: SC/JG_Oesau]  
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So, as it stands, people who buy in increments pay a total of $70 dollars US?

Please tell me that's a mistake.


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#3155816 - 12/13/10 04:12 AM Re: New Release Date Update [Re: FlandersRevenge]  
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No, not a mistake - I see it as supporting the development of the Sim and happily do so knowing I am helping it get there.

The simple answer is if you want to pay less and get the whole thing hang out and wait for it to be completed. I am under no illusions on what I am buying - I'm buying the development of the end result and for me it's fine but completely understand other people feeling different about it.

$70 - for a sim isn't high in my books.


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Are there any new screenies of the aircraft cockpits and terrain?

I'm looking forward to this one.

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#3155922 - 12/13/10 12:45 PM Re: New Release Date Update [Re: SC/JG_Oesau]  
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Is this sim a standalone title or is it a modification of Strike Fighters or something..?


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Is this sim a standalone title or is it a modification of Strike Fighters or something..?


Standalone.

#3156317 - 12/13/10 09:35 PM Re: New Release Date Update [Re: SC/JG_Oesau]  
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Bittersweet news. No multiplayer until final/boxed release. But at least we'll have something next month that will be a proper Harrier sim.



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#3156872 - 12/14/10 04:23 PM Re: New Release Date Update [Re: SC/JG_Oesau]  
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Hello, I haven't followed JT as closely as perhaps I should. So I have questions:

Are there any plans for modeling of rocket dispersion and multiple types of warheads?
Also, how complex are ground targets? Are there any plans for infantry (even static)?
Or complex ground positions (eg. dug in around a building)?

If there is no rocket dispersion, the ground targets are a few buildings or vehicles (which don't react to being attacked like in DCS) - then I could obviously go back to the ThirdWire series or Jane's Fighter's Anthology for that matter. wink Right?

All I really care about is mud moving and COIN you see...

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REALLY looking forward to this one!


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