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#3140116 - 11/18/10 10:08 PM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day ***** [Re: NaiseFail]  
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As for "75" it is interesting that according to now declassified CIA materials US military knew already in early 70s that "Fan Song F" ist just modernized variant of older Dvina also avialable to export to other countries and the most advanced variant is "Fan Song E" but western public literature stated for long time that "Fan Song F" is the latest variant and successor to others.

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#3140255 - 11/19/10 02:27 AM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: NaiseFail]  
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The next major release (probably next year) will contain the S-200VE Vega-E (SA-5B) system.

sigh
Well there goes christmas.
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#3140364 - 11/19/10 07:50 AM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: PN79]  
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As for "75" it is interesting that according to now declassified CIA materials US military knew already in early 70s that "Fan Song F" is just modernized variant of older Dvina also available to export to other countries and the most advanced variant is "Fan Song E" but western public literature stated for long time that "Fan Song F" is the latest variant and successor to others.

James Bond sometimes made mistakes, and when it turned out, they does not changed the sign as that would only made confusion.
For example the SA-2D is mistaken to another system.

There is the SA-5 Griffon, and the SA-5 Gammon.
The former is marking the S-50 Dal (never fielded), the S-200 competitor.


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#3140646 - 11/19/10 06:22 PM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: ShaneRet]  
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Well there goes christmas.


I cannot promise Vega for Christmas, just a sneak peak of it...
yep


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#3141129 - 11/20/10 02:14 PM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

Well there goes christmas.


I cannot promise Vega for Christmas, just a sneak peak of it...
yep


Maybe you can just write the S-200 manual first this time as part of the sneak peek. From the sounds of it, we'll need all the time we can get to study it before actually using the Complex smile

#3141549 - 11/21/10 10:39 AM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: arkhangelsk]  
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Maybe you can just write the S-200 manual first this time as part of the sneak peek. From the sounds of it, we'll need all the time we can get to study it before actually using the Complex

The manual is written parallel to the program.
I cannot shot pictures, without the working simulator.
yep


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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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#3142372 - 11/22/10 07:47 PM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: NaiseFail]  
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S-200VE Vega-E (SA-5B Gammon) in the works screen shots...
P-14F (Tall King-B) long range target acquisition radar screen in the middle...


Extended plotting board of the SA-5B system...

cheers

Last edited by Hpasp; 11/22/10 07:56 PM.

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(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3142401 - 11/22/10 08:24 PM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: NaiseFail]  
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It almost covers the entire country. LOL

#3142460 - 11/22/10 09:28 PM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: NaiseFail]  
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I really like what you're doing here. Unfortunately is too sim for me, hehehe. If at least I can see my missile hit
lol


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-To the Graveyard!!

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#3142540 - 11/22/10 11:47 PM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: NaiseFail]  
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Though it would be a bit cheap, it should be fun to turn on the Non-Historical mode and engage SR-71s flying over Vietnam with the S-200 - their flight path is not made with that in mind.

#3142688 - 11/23/10 07:26 AM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: arkhangelsk]  
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"Though it would be a bit cheat, it should be fun to turn on the Non-Historical mode and engage SR-71s flying over Vietnam with the S-200 - their flight path is not made with that in mind."

Another interesting scenarios is in the cards, for the future release of the sim...
... just imagine:

28th of March, 1985. An SR-71 is taking off from Mildenhall UK, for a routine recce flight of the the Warsaw Pact.
The alarm "JASTREB" (Hawk) sounds, and the whole WarPact air defense goes to alert.
(You can listen the original Jastreb alarm here: http://peters-ada.de/B1_signal%20jastreb.mp3 )

All training flights are immediately landed, to clear the airspace.
"FANTOMAS" (codename of the MiG-25PD) is taking off from Finow-Eberswalde GDR, to fly parallel track, and be ready just in case.
The "VEGA" (SA-5B Gammon) complexes are in Alert One, missiles are on the launchers, at ready to launch state.

Everybody is looking at the radar scopes...
red - Jastreb (SR-71)
green - Fantomas (MiG-25PD)
yellow - E-3A AWACS
purple - KC-135



and the plotting chart


The Jastreb makes a turn in the narrow airspace of the BRD, and returns to the UK...
... another "normal" day of the Cold War passed without any incident.

read more about it here: JASTREB

Last edited by Hpasp; 11/23/10 03:47 PM.

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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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#3144822 - 11/26/10 05:30 PM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: NaiseFail]  
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Hi,

looks very promising. please consider, that during the cold war the actual map of eastern europe looked different: the CSSR was one country (chechoslovakia), as was yugoslavia (no croatia, no serbia, no montenegro etc.)...

regards
phamtuan

#3144840 - 11/26/10 05:51 PM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: Phamtuan]  
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Hi Pham Tuan,

Trust me, I lived there personally.
Few pictures, that might made you happy, regarding the future of the SAM Simulator...
wave




BR,
Hpasp

PS: if you know what system is in the picture, than your nick is a bit closer to the real Pham Tuan...
angel


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(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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#3147863 - 12/01/10 08:53 PM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: NaiseFail]  
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S-200VE Vega-E (SA-5B Gammon) Target Tracking Officers DV (distance/velocity) indicator, in speed search regime.


Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3147883 - 12/01/10 09:14 PM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: Hpasp]  
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Anybody could recognize the system above?


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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3147888 - 12/01/10 09:19 PM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
Anybody could recognize the system above?


SA-2 is as specific as I could get.

#3148001 - 12/02/10 12:03 AM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: NaiseFail]  
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Dvina. Cabin for optic guidance in the first photo.

#3148177 - 12/02/10 07:17 AM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: PN79]  
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Correct.
yep

This is the SA-75MK Dvina (SA-2F) the "export" version.

I think it will be an eye opening experience for all of you, who taken the time & trouble to learn to operate the S-75M Volhov (SA-2E) [WarPac version], to find out the difference to the "export" version.

Here it is in Vietnam:


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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3149203 - 12/03/10 07:37 PM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: NaiseFail]  
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S-200VE Vega-E (SA-5B Gammon) simulator in the works screen-shots...

Might be a not well known fact, that the Vega is capable to determine the target type, by analyzing its Doppler spectrum, and radar echo strength versus its range.
It is called by the west: NCTR (Non Cooperative Target Recognition).
jawdrop

Boeing B737 Doppler spectrum


MiG-21MF Doppler spectrum


Cessna C-172 Doppler spectrum


ready

Last edited by Hpasp; 12/03/10 08:24 PM.

Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#3149381 - 12/03/10 10:38 PM Re: S-75M3 Volhov qualification day [Re: NaiseFail]  
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Let me just say this about that: That is cool as hell.

That is all.

Miao, Cat


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