You guess the correct HAT, the grey one on the left side.

The mic switch on the throttle which is a 4 way hat also has a push down (in) feature.

They're high on dope. The most I would even consider paying would be $299.

I've been using a $40 dollar Sidewinder Pro for 10 years, and it works with every single flight sim I have, no problems, and no headaches.

I'll buy a HOTAS one day when they make one problem free that doesn't cost more than a kidney transplant.

Well that's great, everyone has a limit to what they'd pay for something. I think the general consensus among most flight simmers is that it's a fair price. I don't think saying that they're high on dope is fair (I know you mean it figuratively), especially since we don't know the final MSRP nor any accurate idea of the true quality.

I like to add that I'm not a TM fanboy, I've never owned one of their products. But I am a flight sim fanboy in regards to software and hardware. It's hard not to be when our hobby is such a niche market these days. I reserve my final judgment for the price and real reviews, but all info we have now tells us that this will be one of the nicest combat controllers ever! That's worth getting excited about.

MODS: Is there a way to combine this topic with the already existing Warthog HOTAS thread? We're hitting on the same points here and we might as well consolidate the discussion if possible.

HHF

Will check on it.

Thanks Panther!

IMO, out of the box, the Cougar is somewhat of a POS. lol

My CH stick and throttle have never had an issue pots, needed modding, or required fixing of switches....and they were cheaper and a LOT more precise.

For looks, the Cougar all the way. Functionality, build quality, and price wise, my CH setup is a lot better than my Cougar (and I didn't even buy one of the early Cougars).

That's a valid point the cougar track record doesn't set TM up to be a favorite. But we've yet to see the Warthog for real, so it's hard to make a judgment. Companies make bad products all the time additionally they learn from those mistakes and make good products too. Only time will tell if the Warthog will live up to the hype/price tag. When this thing hits the street we'll know the real truth!

If you want to get an idea before it hits the streets, check out Ray's preview. The consensus among those of us who have tested it is very similar...

Your opinion and my experience are two different things. I am still using my original Cougar that I have had since they were released on the market. No mods, no problems. Rock solid dependable.

I came from F-16 FLCS/TQS. I used the Bob Church Mod Chips on that set. Used them for years. And before that it was the FCS and WCS...

I have plastic stuff I use for games but, for my sims, there is no going back. TM all the way!

I totally jinxed myself and my sticks are gonna die tonight