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#3055005 - 07/18/10 11:25 AM Newbie here
Nicolas Offline
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Registered: 07/17/10
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Hello everybody, my name is Nicolas, I'm from argentina and I've just moved to WWII air combat simulation. I used to play Silent Hunter 3 but now I bought this nice game and I'm really enjoyed. Arcade mode is alright but it doesn't feel nice, so I tried realistic mode but found myself stalling all the time and crashing.
To say it plain and straight: I know nothing about flying a fighter (and don't bloody know why it stalls!!). Is there any webpage or dcoument where I can read and learn how to fly one of these simulators or could you give me some tips? the game's tutorial really teaches me nothing so if you could help me...

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#3055072 - 07/18/10 01:11 PM Re: Newbie here [Re: Nicolas]
Desode Offline
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Registered: 07/29/09
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Well, The main thing is to be gentle with these planes at first.
What plane are you trying to fly ?

Each plane is different and they stall at different speeds. Don't yank on the stick. Smoothly make your turns and make sure your air speed is fast enough for the manuever.
Also when in combat , think ahead, like your playing chess.

First I would say, learn your basic combat manuevers :Simple Roll, Immelman, Split-S, Loop Over/ Under and Barrel Roll. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTjpxXbBnuU&feature=player_embedded#!

Then some more technical manuevers like here : http://library.thinkquest.org/3142/manuv.htm

I'm sure that if you Dig around on here, there is some way better information.
Try using the forum search.

Best of Luck and welcome to Air Combat, DESODE
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#3055273 - 07/18/10 08:42 PM Re: Newbie here [Re: Desode]
Uriah Offline
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Registered: 02/15/06
Posts: 2469
Loc: Kansas City, Missouri - USA
Nicolas,

In the game you can turn down the sensitivity of the pitch and yaw and so on. Do so to about 2/3. As you get a better feel you can increase the sensitivity. This makes a big difference. Keep in mind that the real planes had a stick that was 2 feet or more long I think. A person has much more control with a long stick. With the short ones we use for games - just a small movement can produce big radical changes. So when people say gentle they mean very small and slow movements.

The other thing to do is to somehow reassign the keys to what makes sense to you and the devices you have.

You may find this handy, but you will have to reformat it all as the format does not keep from pasting it here.
WINGS OF PREY
KEY MAPPING

AIRCRAFT CONTROL
Aileron Left _______ _______ _______
Aileron Right _______ _______ _______
Elevator Up _______ _______ _______
Elevator Down _______ _______ _______
Rudder Left _______ _______ _______
Rudder Right _______ _______ _______
Toggle Flaps (Simulator) _______ _______ _______
Flaps Down _______ _______ _______
Flaps Up _______ _______ _______
Toggle Gear _______ _______ _______
Wheel Brake _______ _______ _______
Toggle AirBrake _______ _______ _______
Trim aircraft (Simulator) _______ _______ _______
Reset trimming (Simulator)_______ _______ _______
Ailerons Trim Right _______ _______ _______
Ailerons Trim Left _______ _______ _______
Ailerons Trim Neutral _______ _______ _______
Elevator Trim Negative _______ _______ _______
Elevator Trim Positive _______ _______ _______
Elevator Trim Neutral _______ _______ _______
Rudder Trim Right _______ _______ _______
Rudder Trim Left _______ _______ _______
Rudder Trim Neutral _______ _______ _______

. ENGINE CONTROL
Increase Throttle _______ _______ _______
Decrease Throttle _______ _______ _______
Increase Mixture _______ _______ _______
Decrease Mixture _______ _______ _______
Open Cowl _______ _______ _______
Close Cowl _______ _______ _______
Increase Prop Pitch _______ _______ _______
Decrease Prop Pitch _______ _______ _______
Toggle Auto Prop Pitch _______ _______ _______
Toggle Supercharger _______ _______ _______
Engine Control Mode _______ _______ _______
FIRE CONTROL
Fire guns _______ _______ _______
Machine guns _______ _______ _______
Cannons _______ _______ _______
Drop bomb _______ _______ _______
Fire Rocket _______ _______ _______
Toggle Sight _______ _______ _______

Camera and View Control
External View _______ _______ _______
Cockpit View _______ _______ _______
Virtual Cockpit _______ _______ _______
Gunner View _______ _______ _______
Bomber View _______ _______ _______
Default View _______ _______ _______
Lock Target _______ _______ _______
Target Camera _______ _______ _______
Zoom Camera _______ _______ _______
Zoom In _______ _______ _______
Zoom Out _______ _______ _______
Up View _______ _______ _______
Rear View _______ _______ _______
REPLAYS
Switch to player’s view _______ _______ _______
Switch to previous view _______ _______ _______
Switch to next plane _______ _______ _______
MENU AND SO ON
Bailout _______ _______ _______
Tactical Map _______ _______ _______
Statistics _______ _______ _______
Order Attack _______ _______ _______
Order Stay Formation _______ _______ _______
Order Cover _______ _______ _______
Order Destroy Objective _______ _______ _______
General Choice _______ _______ _______
Team chat _______ _______ _______
Screenshot _______ _______ _______
Menu _______ _______ _______
Continue _______ _______ _______
Pause _______ _______ _______
Push-to-talk (all) _______ _______ _______
. _______ _______ _______
. _______ _______ _______


and
WoP
Split KEY-BOARD, MSSW FF2 JOYSTICK, TrackIR And CH THROTTLE QUADRANT
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.Open Bail SUPERCHARGE Feather Prop
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