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#3015964 - 05/21/10 05:43 PM Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone?  
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Howdy All,
Went through some very very old boxes today and found a near pristine set of the "Luftwaffe" strategy-simulation boardgame !

All is in, nothing is missing ! Target sheets, order of battles for both German & US airforces, plane counters and all. Even a few scribblings made by some mates and myself a good 25 years ago.
I still remember the boardgame sitting on the dining room table for days on end, forcing my mom to eat in the kitchen until the campaign was over !

Anyone played it back then?

If you want to know a little more about this pre-computer sim, check out http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3646/luftwaffe
I do ressent the "geek" thing a little but never mind.

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#3015977 - 05/21/10 05:53 PM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: Sluggish Controls]  
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That is some treasure!

I grew up playing lots of board games. My favorites were the Squad Leader series, Midway, Tobruk and Air Force. I still have my Squad Leader set at my parent's home. It is nice of them not to throw that away.


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#3016036 - 05/21/10 06:50 PM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: WalterNowi]  
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I used to play it all the time. I did make some rule additions to make it more complicated, like splitting the 109s into several groups so they weren't all obligated to fly at once, for example. Fun game.

#3016356 - 05/22/10 04:29 AM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: HarryM]  
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And I do still have it, will probably play it with my son when he's old enough.

#3016367 - 05/22/10 05:01 AM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: HarryM]  
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Yes I have played that many times with friends.

Is anyone familiar with this one?


Yeah I used to play Luftwaffe and others long before EAW and IL-2 came around. Along with Axis & Allies, Dawn Patrol (WWI air combat), and Fight in The Skies. Which was the old version of Dawn Patrol.


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#3017174 - 05/23/10 06:16 PM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: JG7_ME262U1]  
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Add me to the list of Avalon Hill game players. I spent a lot of time playing Luftwaffe, it was the only one I ever 'played by mail' with a pen-pal in Florida. Lots of fond memories there smile

#3017355 - 05/23/10 11:38 PM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: WWSandMan]  
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Man Luftwaffe was my second Avalon Hill game! Loved that game and really got into it.

My first was Panzer Leader. Got it when I was 11 or 12 because the box looked way cool. I had no idea what I was getting into, but since I laid it on pretty thick with my dad there was no way I wasnt going to learn to play it. Ive been hooked on hard core games ever since!

I had a cousin who was a militaria geek too, and we played Luftwaffe, Panzer Leader, Squad Leader, Third Reich and Midway through our middle school years. Squad Leader and Third Reich turned out to be my favorites and I would enjoy playing them both today.

#3017498 - 05/24/10 04:45 AM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: Tarnsman]  
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for those needing another look at 'Luftwaffe' ... ->

http://www.dazolgames.com/avalonhill/luftwaffe.html

#3017982 - 05/24/10 08:16 PM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: WWSandMan]  
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I have about 3 shelves full of bookcase games.As far as air combat I have Air Force,Over The Reich,Central America(has aircraft ops) and Sixth Fleet.

I however liked the tactical games better like Squad Leader and its add-on's.Ambush!(my favorite) and Sniper! and its modern version Special Forces.

A great website for these games is.... http://www.boardgamegeek.com/
They even have pics of all these games.Its a good site to find classic's or modern ones.

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#3018725 - 05/25/10 07:54 PM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: FokkerDVIII]  
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'Played countless PBM games of Luftwaffe; added the tactical variant rules that appeared in a later issue of the Avalon Hill General and it really improved game play and realism.

'Still play Mustangs only with 1/285 / 1/300 scale miniatures on a large table.

'First air wargame was 'Battle of Britain' by Lou Zocchi (the designer of Luftwaffe); still play that one!

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#3020863 - 05/29/10 12:29 AM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: Joes Shop]  
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I still play wargames, if you want to see some impressive air ones check out this site


www.airbattle.co.uk

I own the burning Blue Battle of Britain game, and the Downtown Vietnam one too

I helped playtest Nightfighter, and I am in the process of helping with Bomber Command , both really cool!

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#3021225 - 05/29/10 06:37 PM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: dude163]  
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Dude163,

I have Downtown - enjoyed it.

What level is Burning Blue played at: Squadron, Gruppe ?

I assume Nightfighter is individual/section of 2 aircraft?

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#3021283 - 05/29/10 08:49 PM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: Joes Shop]  
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Burning Blue is RAF squadrons and LFT Gruppen as you said

Nightfighter is individual nightfighters versus bomber streams or intruders

http://www.gmtgames.com/p-233-nightfighter.aspx ( hard not to like a game with P61s and Ta154s as part of the countermix!)


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#3023041 - 06/01/10 08:12 PM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: dude163]  
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Dude163,

Thanks very much for the info!

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#3026512 - 06/07/10 05:21 AM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: Joes Shop]  
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Feel free to argue the flight models =)



Best way to describe Gun Factor: ME262 4x30mm = 16 (higher the better)



If I remember correctly: maneuver symbol may vary on aircraft speed
Red Circle - Excellent (best)
White Diamond - Good
Blue Square - Average
Green Shield - Poor
Tan Triangle - Bad (worst)


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#3030665 - 06/13/10 09:33 PM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: JG7_ME262U1]  
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Is this from the AH game Mustangs?

it looks rad!

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#3030712 - 06/13/10 11:23 PM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: dude163]  
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S! Dude!

Yes it is. That also includes the expansion pack besides the original plane set.


http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1371/mustangs

http://cgi.ebay.com/AVALON-HILLS-MUSTANG...=item4839849804


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#3031131 - 06/14/10 05:13 PM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: JG7_ME262U1]  
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Thanks JG7

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#3031349 - 06/14/10 09:51 PM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: dude163]  
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Originally Posted By: dude163
Thanks JG7

S!


Anytime Dude!

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#3032086 - 06/15/10 07:03 PM Re: Avalon Hill's "Luftwaffe" . Anyone? [Re: JG7_ME262U1]  
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Our group plays it with 1/285 and 1/300 scale miniatures - 'great low complexity game!

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