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#3020595 - 05/28/10 05:46 PM Trackir problem  
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I have been emailing back forth with Natural point and so far we can't fix this.
I just bought TIR5 because my TIR3 was stopping tracking after a few minutes in the sim. But the new TIR5 is doing the same thing!!!

PLease help !!
Tom


Machine name: XPSP3
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.100216-1514)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System Model: 775Dual-VSTA
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Page File: 640MB used, 3302MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode


Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 9800 GTX+


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#3020849 - 05/29/10 12:01 AM Re: Trackir problem [Re: Daze]  
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Haven't heard of that problem
Try running it in administrator mode.
Do the lights stay green, change colour or go out
Once you quit the game does it come back (check the software)?

#3020887 - 05/29/10 01:14 AM Re: Trackir problem [Re: Relix]  
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THe lights stay on. Restarting the game doesn't do it. Have to restart TIR.
It just all of a sudden stops tracking. This computer is a rebuild by a local computer guy. He over clocked the MB and the processor. Could that be it?


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#3020900 - 05/29/10 01:28 AM Re: Trackir problem [Re: Daze]  
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Sounds like a similar trouble I had...check your TIR 'pause' button assignment vs. your input commands in ROF.

I couldn't take screenshots initially since 'print screen' was bound to TIR, which traps that function unless you disable trapping. I'd go to take a screenshot, but it wouldn't generate one, since TIR had trapped that key function wink

I've since bound my TIR keys to joystick buttons used exclusively for those 3 functions and have had no further problems.

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Last edited by Gunloon; 05/29/10 01:29 AM.

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#3020941 - 05/29/10 02:41 AM Re: Trackir problem [Re: Gunloon]  
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What he said plus:
This may sound stupid but my brother moved his PC and called to tell me that his TrackIr was goin nuts.
Found out that outside light was hitting his sensor.
Just a thought. Make sure there is no other light source interference.
It does happen....

#3021182 - 05/29/10 05:24 PM Re: Trackir problem [Re: Musicman]  
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I've tested and made sure non of those things are happening. Man losing TIR really messes up the realism factor.


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#3021200 - 05/29/10 06:02 PM Re: Trackir problem [Re: Daze]  
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I suspect Musicman is on to something. Even at dusk here, light leakage hitting my TIR sensor makes it freeze, shift to weird views or otherwise go bonkers.

I pretty much restrict my flying to night...are you getting the same problems when it's full dark out?

Now, I use TrackClipPro, so the ideal TIR environment would be a room closed to daylight and where any light sources can't hit the sensor directly.

You might try turning up both the Status LEDs Brightness and Light Filter Threshold in the Camera tab as well. FWIW I also use the lower settong for IR Brightness in that tab, not sure if it's worth turning up too.

Speaking of, are you using the passive TrackClip reflector or the active TrackClipPro? Using the appropriate input button makes a difference.

Agreed that losing TIR messes everything up...when I try day flying I find myself shifting, shaking my head and making some very rude noises when it screws up.

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Last edited by Gunloon; 05/29/10 06:13 PM.

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#3021235 - 05/29/10 06:56 PM Re: Trackir problem [Re: Gunloon]  
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It will mess up if light hits it I know. Bt this happens in total darkness too. It doesn't get shakey or wierd it just stops tracking and I have to use the mouse or tophat for the rest of the mission then quit the game and restart TIR.


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#3021266 - 05/29/10 08:03 PM Re: Trackir problem [Re: Daze]  
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Make sure Tir is plugged into your computer not a hub, I hear that can make a difference.

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#3021284 - 05/29/10 08:50 PM Re: Trackir problem [Re: Relix]  
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Make sure there's no key conflict.

My right arrow key pauses TrackIR by default. I didn't set it up that way, it just does it, I just can't be arsed to change it. Also if you're using a voice recognition program, make sure it's not sending out odd key strokes that conflict with the trackIR pause key.

#3021744 - 05/30/10 05:25 PM Re: Trackir problem [Re: Damocles]  
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While we're on this topic.
Here's something that I did that made centering and on and off easy to do without conflicting keys.
If you have a wheel mouse, use your wheel push down to center TrackIR. I also have left side buttons on my mouse and use that to turn on and off. I discovered this while playing FSX which I use the mouse often and it to me was a great discovery!
Using my mouse to click on switches and stuff anyway in FSX and with a click on the mouse bottom I can freeze my head movement when need be. It's a snap! (Pun here).

#3021875 - 05/30/10 09:47 PM Re: Trackir problem [Re: Musicman]  
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I've been having TIR troubles too. But its not light interferance. I can start TIR in window and all works fine including buttons that I have mapped to control it. When I start the game the TIR stays on but my buttons stop working. In the past I've had to fiddle around with alt tabbing out and such to get it to where I can control the TIR in game. Not sure what the deal is.


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#3024361 - 06/03/10 08:12 PM Re: Trackir problem [Re: Coot]  
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Have you tried running both the TrackIR software, and the gaming application as an admin (right click on the exe file for each, and select run as admin)?


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#3041945 - 06/29/10 02:41 AM Re: Trackir problem [Re: NaturalPoint_Vincent]  
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I am having much the same trouble with TrackIR as Coot wrote. I can start ROF as admin but TrackIR won't start that way at all - errors out with the suggestion to send message to MS.

I am on XP so this should not be an issue as it can be with VISTA.

Any ideas?


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#3041947 - 06/29/10 02:42 AM Re: Trackir problem [Re: Uriah]  
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ps, before my computer crash and reinstall of XP the trackir and rof were working fine together.


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#3042795 - 06/30/10 01:30 AM Re: Trackir problem [Re: Uriah]  
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I reinstalled TRACKIR4 after uninstalling it, no luck. Tried it out on EAW and worked fine. Tried it out in WoP and no luck. Tried it out on IL2 and worked fine.

Maybe I should post on the trackir site.


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#3042816 - 06/30/10 02:14 AM Re: Trackir problem [Re: Uriah]  
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I posted this at NP forum.


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#3042855 - 06/30/10 03:19 AM Re: Trackir problem [Re: Uriah]  
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Originally Posted By: Uriah
ps, before my computer crash and reinstall of XP the trackir and rof were working fine together.


Did you instal XP3 and all the M$ libraries that come with ROF disk?

Jason

#3043371 - 06/30/10 09:03 PM Re: Trackir problem [Re: 777 Studios - Jason]  
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What version of the IR software are you using?


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#3043478 - 07/01/10 12:00 AM Re: Trackir problem [Re: NaturalPoint_Vincent]  
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Jason, I have kept to service pack 2.
And I just installed according to the suggestions from the disk, so I do not know if I got all the MS libs that come with the disk.


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